LANDER -- Wyoming is receiving a great deal of scorn from wolf advocates throughout the United States, and even overseas, but state officials said Wednesday that most of the non-local critics don't have their facts straight about the state's wolf management plan.
And even though some people in places as far afield as California and Vermont are encouraging travelers and consumers to boycott the Cowboy State -- because they disagree with its "shoot-on-sight" zone for wolves -- it appears that interest in traveling to Wyoming is actually on the rise, one official with the Wyoming tourism office said Wednesday.
Gov. Dave Freudenthal's office received more than 800 phone calls Tuesday and Wednesday from members and supporters of Defenders of Wildlife, a Washington, D.C.-based conservation organization. The group urged people via mailings and through its Web site to call and ask the governor to get rid of "the shoot-on-sight policy that is now in effect for nearly 90 percent of the state."
What Defenders of Wildlife calls "talking points," the governor's office calls a "script." And those answering the phones in the State Capitol heard the wording repeated about 85 times an hour Tuesday, and 25 times an hour Wednesday, according to Cara Eastwood, the governor's press secretary.
The governor's office had received almost 850 of these "scripted" calls as of 3 p.m. Wednesday, but only a handful came from Wyomingites, Eastwood said -- two on Tuesday and two or three Wednesday.
Eastwood spent a good portion of her morning helping answer the calls, she said, and she talked to people from Oklahoma, New Hampshire, Chicago and Minnesota, among other places. But the majority of the calls she answered came from California and New York.
"The governor will get a report on every single person who has called, but our constituents are in Wyoming, so he's most concerned about what local people have to say," Eastwood said. "Frankly, the views of people calling from New York or California may vary quite a bit from somebody calling from Dubois. And the concerns of people in this state weigh more heavily than the concerns of people calling from New York and California."
Suzanne Stone, the regional representative for Defenders of Wildlife, said members of her organization have been expressing concern and outrage about Wyoming's management plan since wolves were delisted. Making these phone calls is a way for them to "take direct action on their concerns," she said.
The Cowboy State offers some protection to wolves in the greater Yellowstone area, but the animals can be shot on sight in the rest of the state. Since delisting, 13 wolves have been confirmed killed in Wyoming, all of them in the predator management, or "shoot-on-sight" zone.
"I've had people calling in tears that they are so frustrated about how cruel and senseless these killings are in Wyoming, and they wanted to have something to do to express their concerns," Stone said. "The recent, senseless and indiscriminate wolf killing in Wyoming needs to be exposed. Running down wolves in snow machines and killing these wild animals once they're exhausted is not management, it's brutal."
Defenders of Wildlife is calling on Wyoming to create a more responsible wolf management plan, she said, because it is "the worst in the country."
"It's one of the most bizarre wildlife management plans that I've ever seen," Stone said.
Although Wyoming's plan was approved by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service last year, and wolves were officially removed from protection under the federal Endangered Species Act March 28, a coalition of 12 conservation groups -- including Defenders of Wildlife -- filed suit to overturn that decision Monday.
Stone said her group agrees with the Fish and Wildlife Service's initial assessment of Wyoming's dual status plan for wolves: namely, that it was, and remains, a bad idea.
"The (Fish and Wildlife) Service changed its assessment under political pressure," Stone said. "And our members and supporters are going to continue to express their concerns until somebody listens."
Misunterstood?
The problem with the concerns being expressed, however, is that they're not grounded in facts, state officials said Wednesday.
"Probably a lot of people who are calling (the governor's office) don't have a full understanding of how Wyoming's management plan is intended to work," said Eric Keszler, spokesman for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. "One of the talking points (assembled by the Defenders of Wildlife) refers to the shoot-on-sight zone in 90 percent of the state. What it doesn't mention is there are very few wolves in that part of state."
More than 90 percent of the state's estimated 360 wolves live in the trophy game zone, Keszler said, in the extreme northwest corner of the state, and those wolves largely cannot be shot without permits under Wyoming's plan.
Although most of the state is considered a "predator management area" for wolves, where they can, indeed, be shot on sight, that area contains only 20 to 30 wolves total, he said.
"I'm not sure that's clearly understood by a lot of the people that are calling in," Keszler said. "Wyoming's plan is going to maintain a recovered population of wolves in northwest Wyoming. We think the current plan is a wise way to manage wolves in this landscape."
As for the recent reports of Internet blogs and letters to the editor calling for a boycott of Wyoming because of its wolf plan, a state official indicated Wednesday that this movement is seeing little, if any, success so far.
"I don't want to underestimate it, but I also don't want to overestimate it," said Diane Shober, director of the Wyoming Office of Tourism. "We have had e-mails and calls from people saying that they would not come to Wyoming, but whether or not anyone has actually canceled a trip because of this, we don't know."
What her office has observed, she said, is that interest in traveling to Wyoming appears to be trending upward at a good clip.
The Wyoming Office of Tourism keeps track of all of the out-of-state inquiries it receives for information on vacation planning for Wyoming, and those inquiries are up 49 percent this year compared to last year, Shober said.
"The interest in traveling here is very strong. Quite honestly, I'm more worried about the price of gas and what that might do to summer traveling," she said.
Environment reporter Chris Merrill can be reached at chris.merrill@trib.com or at (307) 267-6722.
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crazy horse wrote on May 1, 2008 8:30 AM:
Dan S. wrote on May 1, 2008 8:46 AM:
Tguide wrote on May 1, 2008 8:48 AM:
Ruffian wrote on May 1, 2008 9:42 AM:
believe it was one of my greatest experiences and I’ve had many over a lot of years. I believe in life not death and all creatures big and small and “yes” I’m fearful that with “flawed policies” the wolves are in real trouble. I see a lack of caring on the part of many Americans for this country’s icons which I consider to be the wild horses, bison (again, Yellowstone bison) another sickening story of “killing” for no good reason, and wolves.
I’m disheartened Americans don’t seem to take a real interest in the treasures of this country. I have visited National Parks wherein the majority of visitors have been foreigners, mainly Europeans, and they are more interested than we Americans. In visiting Europe’s zoos and wildlife areas I find I’m “the lone wolf”. I find too that Europe is doing more for conservation than we are – something to think about.
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Ron wrote on May 1, 2008 9:50 AM:
If the AR kooks from Spew York and Californicate want wolves so bad, instead of filing lawsuits, they should be out here getting permission to dart them with tranquilizers and transport them back home so their children can play with their new forest friends. "
Franny wrote on May 1, 2008 10:24 AM:
I have to wonder if we mounted a campaign against the quality of life outside of Wyoming if they'd feel the same way that we do?
Perhaps these self appointed do-gooders should clean up their own back yard and learn to mind their own business? "
Off their rockers wrote on May 1, 2008 10:26 AM:
Jim wrote on May 1, 2008 11:34 AM:
That's great that you believe in life and not death, but death is a reality. In fact wolves like many other animals can not survive without death, they are carnivores.
Don't tell me that I don't value the environment. I've spent a lot of time in the Absarokas and Beartooths and I thank the Lord that I have had the opportunity to experience his wonders. However if we don't manage the wolf population, they will over populate and then when the elk herds are devastated they will either move on or starve. "
Jim wrote on May 1, 2008 11:44 AM:
WYOMAN wrote on May 1, 2008 12:36 PM:
If it were up to SOME people/groups every house in Wyoming would have a "wolfie" door so that the wolves could come inside and share our meals with us. "
wolfhunter wrote on May 1, 2008 12:49 PM:
GOOD JOB GOVERNOR FREDENTHAL WYOMING IS BEHIND YOU STRONG!! "
BELLSTOWN wrote on May 1, 2008 1:05 PM:
According to Eric Keszler "Although most of the state is considered a "predator management area" for wolves, where they can, indeed, be shot on sight, that area contains only 20 to 30 wolves total."
If that were true, how come more than 34 wolves have already been shot? Some of them for revenge, rather then to protect lifestock. I was hoping WY's wolf management plan would work better than that, with ranchers using common sense to just control the problem wolves, and not just chase innocent wolves around on snowmobiles to then shoot them cruelly, for no reason whatsoever. So far, the rednecks have proofed the plan wrong, and if this senseless killing continuous, then that will just benefit the environmentalists with their lawsuit to re-list the wolves. The control that G&F gained will be lost to Washington again, is that really what y'all want? I would like to hear some reasonable solutions, not the BS about "shipping them to NY", get real, Wyoming! "
LaramieResident wrote on May 1, 2008 3:20 PM:
You are correct that the National Parks belong to "ALL" of the people, however what you are concerning yourself with is the policy outside of the Park, in a state which you do not reside in. Hunting is not allowed in Yellowstone or GTNP, PERIOD. While I am not completely convinced that our policy is perfect, I agree with the Gov in not worrying about what outsiders think. I wish Wyoming's politicians would take this mentality more often and begin working to allow Wyoming residents priority when recreating in Wyoming's public lands, not outsider tourists. Increase non-resident fees by tenfold. "
Ethel wrote on May 1, 2008 3:22 PM:
This is a misinformation campaign of the worst type.
More over, these medllers have nothing at stake in the argument. We in Wyoming are the ones with something to lose.
How is this ethical and why would anyone with real knowledge of this matter ever listen to them? "
dude wrote on May 1, 2008 3:22 PM:
Yeehaw wrote on May 1, 2008 3:50 PM:
Pete wrote on May 1, 2008 3:52 PM:
Rednecks-R-Us wrote on May 1, 2008 4:20 PM:
vicki wrote on May 1, 2008 4:38 PM:
The problem is Wyoming's slanted portrayal of what is really going on, and the manipulation of information that yher are giving out.
If you are really worried about wolves leaving Wyoming, tell the state to make the predator zone such that wolves can get out of WY. The plan they have now prevents that.
You should realize, Wyoming is not a country or an island. It exists as part of a union...that makes it as much a right of others to say what goes on, as those who live in the state. "
WyoWolfHunter wrote on May 1, 2008 5:19 PM:
Since you are from Wyoming ypu should at least get your facts straight before you condem your own state for killing wolves. The 34 wolves you mentioned being killed were in the three state region of Wyoming, Idaho and Montana. Wyoming is only responsible for 13 of those deaths. Idaho is responsible for 17 deaths which is obviously more than Wyoming and they do not have a so called "Predator" shoot on sight area.
You also fail to recognize the fact that even if Wyoming did not have control of wolves the USFWS was on track to kill over 80 wolves in Wyoming this year due to depredation, and most of these kills would have occured in the Predator area. You also fail to recognize that the wolves that were being killed by the USFWS were done so by using snowmachines, helicopters, and airplanes.
So since management will likely return to the USFWS, I shall expect even stronger comments from every wolf loving fanatic directed at the USFWS for not only killing large amounts of wolves but also killing all of them by using means that you say is unethical. "
Steve C wrote on May 1, 2008 5:30 PM:
Willy wrote on May 1, 2008 6:50 PM:
First of all, the USFW scientists agreed to Wyoming's wolf management plan. And I think they have a little more information at their disposal than you do. The wolf plan not perfect but a good working compromise. The best wolf habitat (i.e., YNP, GTNP, and surrounding wilderness areas) was set aside for the wolves, so what's your problem?
Second of all: A lot of cbm water is currently being put to beneficial use in Wyo, so if you live in backwards Montana, go ahead and suffer through your drought.
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WW wrote on May 1, 2008 7:01 PM:
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Over it... wrote on May 1, 2008 9:04 PM:
What part of "sound science" and its results do you not understand. I know without a doubt, had the very same science supported your views you would be pounding it down our throat.
Your comment regarding wolves not being able to get out of Wyoming is a joke. It clearly shows how little you know about the wolf.
Yeehaw....Thanks for showing all of us how educated you really are. Can't wait to jump on your short bus.
Ruffian.....The Wyoming wolf plan as it currently stands will NEVER allow the wolf to be eliminated within the state of Wyoming. NEVER! We will be living with them for good.
This plan works. Leave it alone! "
Justin wrote on May 1, 2008 9:14 PM:
dude wrote on May 1, 2008 9:35 PM:
Rednecks - I guess if all you have is emotional arguments so all you can do is call names? The objective scientists support the wyoming plan. I do however agree on one thing. thank god you don't live here "
Get a Grip of reality wrote on May 1, 2008 9:50 PM:
A NATIONAL resourse? Wyoming is the state that will pay FOREVER to manage this wild dog. The Feds pay very little!
The predator zone is fine like it is. In case you don't get it. We don't want to be surrounded by more problems.
You think you have a right to say what goes on in Wyoming even when you don't live here? Then PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS and send the state some cash to help us pay to manage your national resourse! What no donation? Then close your mouth! "
Shr wrote on May 1, 2008 10:14 PM:
Environmental man wrote on May 2, 2008 12:11 AM:
Marion wrote on May 2, 2008 5:17 AM:
Crazy horse said it in the beginning, take care of your own state, we'll take care of ours.
Do you folks realize how arrogant and rud you are to try to force us to provide you with a plan for managing our lives and state the way you want? "
Lamp Lighter wrote on May 2, 2008 7:48 AM:
Tguide wrote on May 2, 2008 8:41 AM:
Dewd wrote on May 2, 2008 8:58 AM:
AdventureBob wrote on May 2, 2008 9:10 AM:
No need for a script as the people of Wyoming can think on there own and tell there own story.
1-800-385-9712 or (202) 682-9400
Spread the word and get their phones ringing! "
LaramieResident wrote on May 2, 2008 10:17 AM:
What does that anything to do with the debate? Oh no, Wyoming almost wasn't a state - therefore they shouldn't have the same rights as other states. Yes we have been completely exploited by industry - our children go to college for nearly nothing, we have billions of dollars in our coffers, the University is building facilities and hiring professors to create a superb institution. Disney has created a world where everyone thinks that animals are cute, little, English speaking critters, even though mother nature is much crueler than most humans can be. Please boycott our state, most residents would love to cut down the tourist population so we have more of our beautiful spaces to ourselves. "
crazy horse wrote on May 2, 2008 10:31 AM:
Weats wrote on May 2, 2008 10:55 AM:
Rednecks-R-Us wrote on May 2, 2008 10:58 AM:
"Our elk are being wiped out!" Really, so why is it elk numbers in all three states are still at record or near-record highs... and Wyoming continues to issue MORE cow and general season elk tags?
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Wyowerty wrote on May 2, 2008 12:09 PM:
Lets hear it for anonymous hatred. Yay. "
Helen wrote on May 2, 2008 12:26 PM:
If so, let's ship each one of them their very own wolf.
They can cuddle and play fetch all day with them.
Maybe they'd like a grizzly or two also? "
Steve C wrote on May 2, 2008 12:31 PM:
Uninformed wrote on May 2, 2008 2:27 PM:
panama wrote on May 2, 2008 3:07 PM:
I would bet most anything that there are actually 3-4 times as many wolves in Wyoming as what is estimated by our government. That is why so many have traveled out of the park and into the shoot on sight zone.
Come on anyone who knows anything about wolves knows that hunting a wolf that is araid of humans, living on wild game and steering clear of livestock in the shoot on sight area would be nearly inpossible.
It is like hunting a mountain lion without the use of dogs. It just isn't going to happen. The reason these wolves have been shot in Sublette County is because they have been preying on cattle for sometime on the local ranches. Spring time means calving time and that means free meals for wolves. They have become reliant on it and have become "stupid" and have no fear of human scent from being protected so long. They were easy targets because they have been riding the gravy train so long, unlike the wolves who are still in Yellowstone. You would be lucky to catch a glimpse ot one of those. Throw in a few thousand head of cattle calving in the middle of the park you sure would though.
Come on people use your heads and think about things!! "
San Diego wrote on May 2, 2008 3:31 PM:
Jenna wrote on May 2, 2008 3:43 PM:
They deserve their chance to live free of this completely unwarranted hostilty. They are not man-eaters, nor are they super-predators that can catch and kill as much as they wish. Nature doesn't work like that.
Farmers and ranchers deserve the rights to protect their land, herds, and companion animals. If a wolf learns to prey on "easier" prey like domestic livestock, then without a doubt the offending animal(s) should be destroyed.
I live in Montana and have had the pleasure and priveledge to see wolves while in the wild, and remember clearly when they were reintroduced. It was not an easy decision, but I think it was the right one. We of the tri-state area get to live in one of the very few remaining eco-systems, and wolves are a very important AND positive part of that.
People have every right to defend their livelyhood. However, there is no reason for this passionate hatred and cruelty. Running an animal to exhaustion and reveling in killing it is despicable.
I am thrilled to get to hear a true 'call of the wild' in a wolf's howl at night. I hope others of my neighbors can grow to appreciate it. It has its dangers, but the benefits far outweigh the negatives "
Wyoming Together wrote on May 2, 2008 3:51 PM:
Yeehaw wrote on May 2, 2008 4:54 PM:
Alaska Resident wrote on May 2, 2008 5:51 PM:
Good luck my brothers "
getalife wrote on May 2, 2008 6:18 PM:
earthling wrote on May 2, 2008 7:06 PM:
Bon Scott wrote on May 2, 2008 7:55 PM:
Let's see what earthling has to say ... "
Ron wrote on May 2, 2008 9:49 PM:
Understand this! Wyoming does not exist to be your wildlife playground that you visit once a year, and then travel back to the safety of your citified dumps. If you want wolves in your locality, then persuade your government to allow you to put them there.
Wyoming's G&F should be out there tranquilizing these animals, and then simply truck them into California and New York, then dump them out on a street corner, just like Citiiots do with their unwanted pets, when they take their dog or cat out to the country and dump them off on a farmer's property.
Durh! I'm a Citiot and I don't want my dog any more, so I think I'll set him free by dumping him out of the car on a lonely highway out in the middle of nowhere by a farmer's field.! Live free, little puppy, live free! Wheeeeeeee! I am a Citiot pinkneck! "
Idaho wrote on May 2, 2008 11:45 PM:
hey dewd wrote on May 3, 2008 4:22 AM:
Good Shot wrote on May 3, 2008 7:19 AM:
So I suggest, if the newbies and tourists want to have fresh excellent disease free/stockyard free meat, feed them fresh wolf kills, when their T-bones have a hunk out, sell the bite as extra. YOU are eating what the wolves eat, that is an extra charge to be in WY..... "
GaryD wrote on May 3, 2008 7:50 AM:
Mine is kill them all, let god sort em out. "
DewD wrote on May 3, 2008 9:36 AM:
RE Chizmar wrote on May 3, 2008 12:03 PM:
hey dewd wrote on May 3, 2008 3:31 PM:
Hmmmmm wrote on May 3, 2008 3:33 PM:
What wrote on May 3, 2008 4:18 PM:
Over it... wrote on May 3, 2008 9:02 PM:
Dewd....The reason your a seeing so many Moose on the road and wildlife from the road is because many if them have been forced into populated areas and roadsides to escape the wolf. You think a record snowfall in the state has anything to do with the number of animals migrating thru the corridors? I KNOW SO! If you think the Feds wolf numbers are accurate... I have some beach front property where it never snows to sell you here in Wyoming. "
Ron wrote on May 4, 2008 8:17 AM:
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354054,00.html
"The girl was playing Friday in a sandbox at Alterra Park in Chino Hills in San Bernardino County. Around 10:30 a.m., the caretaker heard screaming and saw a coyote trying to carry the child off in its mouth, officials said." "
Ricardo wrote on May 4, 2008 8:36 AM:
gator bait wrote on May 4, 2008 1:41 PM:
Idaho wrote on May 4, 2008 9:15 PM:
panama wrote on May 4, 2008 9:35 PM:
You have some good points and I see where you are coming from you are just hugging your tree to tight and it is partially obscuriing your vision.
The wolves that have been killed in Sublette County are in fact the stupid ones who have learned to prey on cattle and don't know any better. Why else were they shot so quickly. As soon as those ones are gone it will be very rare to hear of any wolf kills. Just like you say that all you see is cold wolf tracks in Park County. Obviously, those wolves have a fear of humans still. We all know wolves are very seclusive animals and you are very lucky to see one. I spent the first 24 years of my life in the Northwest part of the state and have never seen one, only tracks. Hunting wolves will only thin out the ones who have learned to prey on domestic livestock and have no fear of humans. With the current management plan the wolves will soon live as they did before "reintroduction". When the native wolves roamed with no contraversy.
Oh yeah, Dewd since you live in that part of the state just ask any old timer who has been there all his life, there were still wolves roaming around before "reintroduction". They were just so seclusive that very few ever saw one.
And yes there are way more wolves and grizz in the state than what are government will admit. They have gotten out of hand and they don't want to admit it. Why have they spread so far out of Yellowstone? For instance, a few years ago when I still lived in the Thermopolis area I knew of 4 black bear hunters that accidently shot grizz instead of black bears over the course of 2 seasons. That is alot. What are the chances they attracted that many grizzly bears instead of black bears if there was as few as there is supposed to be.
You are right the Bison population hasn't been fased by wolves. You can't compare Bison and livestock anyone knows that. Bison have dealt with wolves forever, livestock haven't. You ever thought that maybe alot of the wolves have left Yellowstone because livestock were a little easier prey?
Yes, and ranchers do get paid for losses. But, for every confirmed kill they get paid for there are probably3-4 that can't be confirmed. Do you think if you had a thousand head of cattle you could keep an eye on every cow 24/7 to make confirm it was a wolf that killed them. They only get partially paid for actual worth of livestock as well. Now, I'm not saying there is no exageration because there probably is. That's human nature, anyone exagerates-kind of like all the eastern wolf lovers posting comments. "
kcgc wrote on May 4, 2008 10:58 PM:
VoiceofReason wrote on May 5, 2008 12:33 AM:
paulette p wrote on May 5, 2008 7:13 AM:
NiLLa wrote on May 5, 2008 7:40 AM:
crazy horse wrote on May 5, 2008 4:06 PM:
SHR wrote on May 5, 2008 7:02 PM:
highmarkin wrote on May 5, 2008 8:33 PM:
Patriot wrote on May 5, 2008 8:46 PM:
~ Robert Ghost Wolf "
Over it... wrote on May 5, 2008 10:29 PM:
Now you want us to believe that wolves don't decimate any prey? Are you for real? "
Bullwhip wrote on May 6, 2008 12:27 AM:
EcoSprite wrote on May 6, 2008 6:04 AM:
Behind the times wrote on May 6, 2008 9:38 AM:
gayle wrote on May 6, 2008 12:13 PM:
Over it... wrote on May 6, 2008 7:04 PM:
Here on Earth man has influenced the natural balance to a point where he must manage the wildlife. Returning to a world where nature controls and balances without management in some form is a dream.
Let all of us here on Earth know when you discover a way to eliminate mans development so that all its furry little critters can take care of themselves.
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sam wrote on May 6, 2008 8:26 PM:
Tguide wrote on May 6, 2008 9:41 PM:
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EcoSprite wrote on May 9, 2008 5:07 AM:
barnun wrote on May 9, 2008 8:32 AM:
crazy horse wrote on May 9, 2008 9:09 AM:
highmarkin wrote on May 9, 2008 9:21 AM:
Tguide wrote on May 9, 2008 11:00 AM:
Barnun wrote on May 9, 2008 2:11 PM:
Juan wrote on May 9, 2008 4:58 PM:
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EcoSprite wrote on May 9, 2008 6:30 PM:
Jake the Snake wrote on May 9, 2008 7:37 PM:
iriq wrote on May 10, 2008 7:34 AM:
Tguide wrote on May 10, 2008 10:38 AM:
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Mr Green Jeans wrote on May 11, 2008 9:39 AM:
In any event, call the governor's office and support the state management plan. I did. The gal I spoke with was from WY and she thought all the out of state loonies calling (such as your ecosprites) was ludicrous. We had a good laugh. Furthermore, she could see on the caller ID that I was from Cody, and understood why people up in this area are not so fond of wolves as the out of state tofu loving, anti-rancher, eco busybodies. Expect some further off topic aimless drivel from ecosprite, and the like. "
Over it... wrote on May 11, 2008 2:55 PM:
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barnun wrote on May 21, 2008 12:46 PM:
Barnun wrote on May 21, 2008 1:06 PM:
tchester.org/sgm/lists/lion_attacks.html and i just read another article that said if wolves migrate to california, they are not protected. Hah ! www.californiawolfcenter.org/why.htm
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laviajera wrote on May 22, 2008 9:14 PM:
Earth first !!(and all its feathered and furred) We'll destroy the rest later.
Who needs beef anyway, we're all the laziest greediest overfed slobs on the planet! "
Earthling wrote on May 23, 2008 7:20 PM:
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Ecosprite wrote on May 29, 2008 3:31 PM:
sammie wrote on May 30, 2008 11:22 AM:
My aunt can not let her kids walk a mile to thier granparents house because of fear they won't make it there. Wolves are beautiful, but are you really ever gonna see one in the wild? And if you make a living off of cattle and sheep, every one of those matter, and wolves, cyotes and other predators cause lots of heart ache.... "
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