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JOAN BARRON

CHEYENNE -- One of the early puzzlers to come out of the Republican primary for U.S. House is the fuss over candidate Mark Gordon's contributions to Democratic candidates.

This is an honored tradition in Wyoming and is why campaign contributions reports are so interesting.

All three of the recent Democratic governors received money and votes from Republicans. It was the GOP votes that propelled them into office.

That was why you could find so many Republicans serving in the administrations of Ed Herschler, Mike Sullivan and the current Democratic chief executive, Dave Freudenthal.

Sullivan also had plenty of support from high-level Republicans in his hometown of Casper, who not only donated money to his campaigns but were valuable chief advisers.

And let us not forget that the Republicans nominated Eli Bebout of Riverton to be their candidate for governor in 2002. Bebout was formerly a Democrat. He lost the general election to Freudenthal and now is a member of the Wyoming Senate.

This should demonstrate how often political lines blur in this state.

The initial attack on Gordon for his donations to Democrats has shoddy origins, given that it was circulated anonymously with a false return address. The shadowy source diminishes the effectiveness and credibility of the message. It shouldn't damage Gordon's campaign.

His challenge will be to convince voters he is qualified for the nomination and the chance to replace retiring GOP Congresswoman Barbara Cubin.

The other front-runner for the nomination, Cynthia Lummis of Cheyenne, can and does point to her years of experience in both branches of government -- as a legislator and two terms as state treasurer.

She bills herself as a genuine conservative Wyoming Republican.

The question will be whether Gordon's well-financed campaign and his television ads can balance out Lummis' experience.

And whether he can dodge the rap of not being a genuine Republican, let alone a conservative one.

Although it is a historical year with all three congressional delegation seats up for election at the same time, the U.S. Senate races haven't stirred much electricity so far.

The U.S. House race promises to be the most interesting. The other candidates are Bill Winney of Bondurant, a retired naval captain, and Michael Holland, a Green River physician.

Barring unforeseen circumstances the contest will be between Lummis and Gordon.

Democrat Gary Trauner of Teton County is running unopposed for his party's nomination. Also in the mix is Libertarian W. David Herbert of Cody.

The four-candidate contest is a little smaller than the turnout expected for an open seat.

Lummis supporters point to her selection by the Republican Central Committee last year as one of the candidates for the U.S. Senate seat made vacant by the death of Sen. Craig Thomas.

Freudenthal ultimately appointed Casper physician and state senator John Barrasso to fill out the four years remaining in Thomas' elected term of office.

The third candidate for the seat was Tom Sansonetti, a longtime GOP activist and former Department of Interior honcho.

Lummis' finalist status demonstrates her popularity among state GOP activists and insiders. But some Republicans say their central committee is much more conservative than the typical Republican voters in the state.

It's possible that with the new demographics in the state more Republican voters will be on the moderate side.

The widespread national voter unhappiness may also be reflected here in the federal races. No one is predicting a Democratic sweep, though.

We will get a taste of the Republican mood in the Aug. 19 primary election.

Contact Joan Barron at joan.barron@trib.com or by phone at 307-632-1244.


 
 

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TR wrote on Jun 15, 2008 6:57 PM:

" Wyoming has the best crooked politics money can buy. "

Eskimo Pie wrote on Jun 15, 2008 9:53 PM:

" Isn't Lummis' husband a Democrat-turned-Republican of late. I think this issue is past its prime. This just shows that Gordon's actions are in-line with the fine tradition of Wyoming Republicans. I am DEFINITELY leaning towards Mark Gordon. "

Hawk Eye wrote on Jun 15, 2008 11:08 PM:

" Funny that Gordon takes heat for giving to Dems, but Lummis doesn't take heat for moving out of the capitol and expanding the size of government. That doesn't seem like what a real Republican would do. "

WYSkippy wrote on Jun 16, 2008 7:25 AM:

" OK, this article includes the comment, "The question will be whether Gordon's well-financed campaign and his television ads can balance out Lummis' experience" Will Wyoming turn into other states where the candidates own deep pockets allow a person to be elected to public office. This article intimates that it does not matter what a person believes in but how much money they have to hire a bunch of staffers, run a major campaign and spend huge dollars for TV ad buys. Spending $1million of his own money appears to be Gordon's only qualification for office. Especially in the primary election, Republcians need to know that this candidate has given to the Dems in this exact race several times in the past including Trauner. What this tells us is that he believes that Trauner is the person Gordon wants to see in DC. Who knows, maybe if he wins the primary he will withdraw and become Trauner's chief of staff.

The article headline says "Giving to Dems a GOP tradition" I was waiting for the article to detail campaign contributions from GOP candidates to their rivals in the past, but I did not see any. This is shaping up to being an endorsement for Gordon from the CST which would surprise no one. "

Fandango wrote on Jun 16, 2008 8:24 AM:

" This strong tradition is why I LOVE Wyoming! We are independent and smart that's why we live here. I am so glad Mark Gordon decided to run. He ain't too bad to look at either!!!! "

Timmothy Schmidt wrote on Jun 16, 2008 8:30 AM:

" I'm glad that finally sombody has made a note of this. As the article says the information on Mark was spread around pretty shadowy with no return address. I hope the people accountable for these actions are ashamed of themslves for trying to undo Mark over a few contributions that obviously many rebulicans have done over the years. Mark will be receiving my vote simply for the fact that he seems like a "real guy" somebody that will be responsible and dependable in office. "

Too Slanted wrote on Jun 16, 2008 11:28 AM:

" This article does not provide any names of office holding Repubs that have given to Dems. Did Enzi, Thomas, Cubin, Barrasso etc. ever give to Dems? It would be public knowledge if they did. So they are really comparing Apples and Oranges here.

What is at question is "IF" elected would Gordon uphold the Republican platform, would he vote as a Conservative or would he follow where his money has been for 20 plus years and take a Liberal stand on issues? You give a candidate money to be elected because their views/ideas on issues are most closely related to your own - not because you are mad at the party for the last 20 plus years.

Thank you CST for continuing to keep this story alive, if it died then people would not remember it come election day. This does not bode well for Gordon to continuously explain, explain, let the CST explain for you, explain his past actions and not talk about current issues. "

Timmothy Schmidt wrote on Jun 16, 2008 11:55 AM:

" The reason Mark has spent so much money is so can get his message out WYSkippy! He isn't trying to buy a seat in congress he is simply trying to share his beliefs. With no recognition how is he supposed to let Wyoming (a very large state) know what he stands for and his beliefs? Mark isn't some billionaire bored and simply trying something new, he is dedicated to Wyoming and would be an excellent representative of Wyoming in Washington. Lummis will just blend in with the rest of the politicians. (Unless of course she wears that same get-up she wore the last day of the GOP Convention in Rock Springs! – Classy Lady) "

devo wrote on Jun 16, 2008 4:04 PM:

" I have known of Mark Gordon for a very long time, and have thought through the years that he would be best kind of person to have run as a representative from wyoming, because of he best resembles the values that I remember from my childhood growing up in wyoming. People who weren't brainwashed clones, just repeating talking points of the party they consider their team. The ability to think and decide independently. Realization that if we are to provide our ranches to our children, to continue to enjoy our outdoor recreations; hunting, fishing, etc., that we had better steward the land properly.

As a democrat however, I was worried when Mark decided to enter the race. He represented such a powerful thoughtful independent leadership that I imagined would have resonated with Wyomingites, meaning the chance of a democratic pickup in Wyoming was far less likely than it already is. But I'm very relieved to see that the brain dead are more than happy to attack what is actually the strongest of their candidates, and will leave standing to represent the GOP Babs v 2.0. "

Get Real wrote on Jun 16, 2008 4:50 PM:

" Mark Gordon is a very bored, very rich guy who has absolutely NO experience and NO qualifications to represent Wyoming in D.C.

Fandango said "He ain't too bad to look at", so that's enough reason for her to vote for him. Get real! What are you people thinking?!

Experience counts in every other profession: business, medicine, law, teaching, etc. Why are you all so willing to send someone to Congress that hasn't even served on a City Council or in the State Legislature? Congress is a BIG job. Shouldn't Gordon have had to pay some dues somewhere to deserve it?? "

Too Slanted wrote on Jun 17, 2008 1:12 PM:

" "People who weren't brainwashed clones, just repeating talking points of the party they consider their team. The ability to think and decide independently."

When we send a Representative or Senator to Washington D.C. we do so knowing what party they are from and thus how they will vote on certain issues. Not all Repubs or Dems believe in everything their party does, but their core political values reflect those most closely related to their party affiliation. The climate in D.C. is not that of Casper Wyoming, there is a distinct line in the sand and you choose which side you stand on – that is one of the biggest reasons Congress can’t get anything done – its all partisan politics which is not independent of the party system. "

Timmothy Schmidt wrote on Jun 17, 2008 3:46 PM:

" No Experience? No Qualifications?
Obviously you haven’t done any research on Mark, “Get Real”. One of the reasons Mark is running for congress is to (and yes this is a direct quote from Mark’s web page): “take back government from professional politicians and Washington insiders to promote and diversify Wyoming's economy while protecting its future.”
Obviously Mark isn’t a professional politician, or Barbra Cubin’s clone.
He does however have experience; experience at being a hardworking Wyoming rancher on four different ranchers for 35 years. Experience at raising a close-knit family, while still having time to coach soccer (one of his favorite sports) and participate in other various community activities. He is the epitome of a Wyoming man.
He ranches, he is a businessman, and he is a father.
Mark Gordon is Wyoming! "

Paper Tiger wrote on Jun 17, 2008 5:15 PM:

" Dudes...they're no political parties. These chics and dudes are all the same. They just trade places every so often during the course of their political careers to keep the ebb and flow moving back and forth. Think about it. Is anything every really accomplished anymore? Could we really accomplish anything major if we had to like win WWII or big the Hoover Dam? No way. We're hollow and superfiacial now, all talk and no substance. A big whiney paper tiger that is demanding and unrully accomplishing nothing and using everything up in the course of doing nothing. "

Erin L. wrote on Jun 17, 2008 7:08 PM:

" Mark Gordon is not bored and he is not afraid of hard work. How about bringing integrity, honesty, intelligence and a great work ethic to Washington? Mr. Gordon understands the needs of Wyoming people and is willing to go the extra mile for us all. Just ask him. Instead of sending a career politician to Washington to continue to play their political games, let's send Mark Gordon, a fresh face who wants to make a difference for us and for our children. Mark Gordon is Wyoming. "Get Real", we people are thinking. "

Get Real wrote on Jun 17, 2008 7:54 PM:

" Mark Gordon is going to get his @ss handed to him in Washington D.C. by people who know the ropes and the system. His "fresh face" won't help him there. They'll recognize his lack of experience and chew him up and spit him out. We'll be left with even less representation in Congress than we have now!

Coaching a kid's soccer team qualifies Gordon for Congress? Are you joking?!! "

Erin L. wrote on Jun 17, 2008 10:07 PM:

" Get Real - I guess you're so bitter because you've obviously become comfortable with "people who know the ropes and the system in Washington, D.C." A bit afraid of change, huh? Mark Gordon is strong and will stay strong. By the way, his "fresh face" WILL help us here in Wyoming! "

Timmothy Schmidt wrote on Jun 18, 2008 8:59 AM:

" Alright maybe coaching soccer or being active in a Wyoming community isn’t a qualification for congress and maybe being a hardworking rancher and businessman for 35 years means nothing, but let’s get a few things straight here, maybe I’m misunderstanding your position “Get Real”.

1.) “Get Real” do you suggest we send a second Barbra Cubin, Mrs. Lummis, or wait is it Mrs. Wiederspahn, to Washington? (cause we all know she did a bang up job for us there!)

2.) “Get Real” you obviously dislike Mark and his “Fresh Face”, so do you suggest we continue to let political big-wigs, who know the system, but can’t seem to get a dang thing done, run congress?

3.) “Get Real” when you’re being under represented how do you fix this problem? Do you continue what you have been doing and bad-mouth change and whine about how under represented you are?

“Get Real” I’m sure if you did some logical research on Mark through his web page – www.gordon08.com you would find that he would be great for Wyoming "

Randy S. wrote on Jun 19, 2008 6:12 AM:

" Dang, what a slam on Winney and that guy from Green River. Guess it goes to show you can't always pander to the special interests and have the support of a conspiracy rag in Cheyenne when you don't know anything about Wyoming because you just moved here and expect to get elected to Congress, And the only reason anyone knows Gordon's name is because of the stupid TV ads he's run so far. But do we really need another out-of-touch millionaire playing rancher representing us in Congress? We've already got that in the Senate and that's probably not going to change. This time let's get some real representation in the US House. GO TRAUNER!!!! "

Randy S. wrote on Jun 19, 2008 6:18 AM:

" Hey Timmothy Schmidt, Erin L and devo, ain't you part of Mark Gordon's Farm Team? Yeah, I thought so. At least he's got 3 votes, and you're getting a paycheck ... that is until August 19th. "

Jimy Barclay wrote on Jun 19, 2008 10:58 AM:

" Wow Randy S. congratulations on making yourself look like a fool! The first mistake you made was being a Democrat and poking your nose around in an argument between Republicans. Then you boldly accuse Timmothy Schmidt, evo, and Erin L of being part of Mark’s Farm Team and receiving a paycheck from him. Obviously you believe only people who are associated with a candidate can blog. . . correct?! If so then who do you belong to? Oh that’s right you want Trauner, so how much is your paycheck from him? Or maybe you are just bad mouthing Mark because he is the only candidate that Trauner doesn’t have a chance against. You and your candidate, almost beat Barbra Cubin so I’m sure you can beat her clone, Cynthia Lummis. Trauner supporters like you are resorting to smearing Mark’s name and criticizing his supporters for the simple fact that you are scared and worried you might lose a second time. . . How embarrassing! "

Larry S. wrote on Jun 19, 2008 1:11 PM:

" And it looks like little Jimy Barclay rounds out the Mark Gordon Farm Team trying to overload this blog in favor of his boss. Well done little Jimy. Too bad you couldn't have shown some originality. But then again, Republicans are far from being known as free thinkers. That must be why Gordon wants to make the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich (you know, the millionaires like Gordon) permenant. Hey man, you got a job lined up for after the primary yet? Maybe Mark can get you to muck some stalls on his ranch. That would be cool, huh? Gosh, but then you'd have to be paying more in taxes (based on percentage of income) than your millionaire boss does. How does that sit with you? You taking bagpipe lessons little Jimy? "

Marce wrote on Jun 19, 2008 2:49 PM:

" I think Timmothy Schmidt got one of Jimy Barclay's m's. Oh wait, they're the same guy. Sorry. My bad "

Too Slanted wrote on Jun 19, 2008 5:00 PM:

" If I was a Trust Fund Baby (see Gordon’s financial report) and had little to no political experience I would be touting the rally cry of "We Need Change" too - sure has worked for Obama. Oh wait, they aren’t from the same party – my bad, I figured Gordon’s campaign style, as well as his core political values, come from the party his money has gone to support for 20 plus years. "

Mrs. Lang wrote on Jun 19, 2008 9:34 PM:

" To the last three bloggers Larry S. aka Randy S. Marce and Too Slanted you all have some pretty good viewpoints on how terrible Mark is so who do you suggest I vote for? You all seem pretty good at being negative and rude how about trying to be positive and fight for your candidate? Why don't you try winning me over with your arguments instead of being so hatefull on those Mark Gordon supporters "

Larry S. wrote on Jun 20, 2008 5:55 AM:

" Mrs Lang or whatever Gordon staffer you are this time,
If you'll re-read what I wrote and agree with making the tax cuts for the richest 1% of the US permanent while the middle and lower income classes of this country shoulder the tax burden for that BS war and the highest deficit in the history of this planet, all the while trying to keep up with the skyrocketing costs of fuel, housing and food, then by all means -vote for Gordon. That will certainly prove what your values are. But if you think that maybe ALL Americans should pay their fair share of taxes, based soley on their ability to pay, then perhaps you should consider Gary Trauner. If you'll do just a little homework on the history of trickle-down economics you'll see that it has NEVER worked and only widens the gap between rich and non-rich. I wonder if Gordon wasn't a millionaire, would he see how unfair the current tax system is? Seems to me like his tax plan serves him first, and makes life just that much harder for the rest of us. Sorry, but the REAL working people of Wyoming can't afford any more Cubin-esque pandering to the rich special interests at our expense. "

Ethics wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:14 AM:

" What we need to teach the dems is ethics. I read that after both McCain and Obama pledged to us public funding for the Presidential campaign, Obama reversed himself after McCain accepted the funding and its limitations on private donations (which Obama has always backed). What an unethical and hypocritical move on the part of the wonder boy. Some would say that this was a smart strategic move by Obama. I call it slimmy politics. Let's see how the vacant one spins this bumble. Did anyone really expect him to behave morally? Not a chance. "

Too Slanted wrote on Jun 20, 2008 4:55 PM:

" Oh Mrs. Lang - I think you doth protest to much.

Do you really find it "rude and hateful" to ask the question :

""IF" elected would Gordon uphold the Republican platform, would he vote as a Conservative or would he follow where his money has been for 20 plus years and take a Liberal stand on issues?" (see my post on 6.16.08)

This is a legitimate question to pose considering his contributions have gone mainly to Democrats (until he decide you wanted to run as a Republican). I will reiterate what I said before – you provide a candidate with contributions to get them elected because the candidate most closely represents your core political values. Gordon has proven with contributions to Dems for 20 plus years and sitting on the Board of the Sierra Club that he is more of a Liberal than a Conservative. This is not about Gordon personally (or you for supporting him so get over yourself) this is about Gordon POLITICALLY and why most Republicans will not vote for him. That may be what you find so rude and hateful. "

Bikers for Obama wrote on Jun 20, 2008 5:52 PM:

" Ain't that what Bill Sniffin did back in '02? - I mean him really being an open-minded Democrat, he run as a Republican because he thought that was the only way to get elected in Wyoming? Yuk Yuk. I'm happy to tell y'all that Wyoming's going BLUE this year with all of us politically active transplants moving here. My crew in the mine here at Solvay are all transplants and is active and we'll help set things right. Gordon is a phony and we'll be crossing party lines for the primary to prime the pump for that carpet-bagger Winney just to mess up Gordon and Lummis. Don't you Republicans wish you could do the same thing too? Yuk Yuk "

Timmothy S. wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:07 PM:

" What is this? I leave for two days and people decide to accuse me of working for Mark Gordon? And not only me Erin L, devo, Jimy Barclay, and Mrs. Lang, are also being accused. Right here and now I would like to say that I am not on Mark Gordon’s payroll and am blogging on my own free accord so please people let’s get over that fact.

I’m not even sure this argument is about the candidates anymore however. I think people are afraid of Mark, I think there are some people embarrassed to fight for THEIR candidate. I believe in this quote “Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.” ~Richard Armour. There isn’t going to be one candidate that you totally agree with on every single issue, EVER! Mark is my candidate, because we share similar beliefs on the majority of the important issues. Also, he is a quality guy I have met with him on occasion and he is knowledgeable, polite, and listened and discussed all of the issues with me. So please let’s get back on the subject of defending our candidates and not accusing and name calling fellow bloggers "

Buck Safety wrote on Jun 21, 2008 7:41 PM:

" To Timmothy S.,
I'm not afraid of Mark Gordon, nor, I think, is anyone else posting their opinions about him here on this forum, so please, stop thinking you're all that when you don't know what is Wyoming.. I DO agree with Larry S. about Gordon's tax stance. And that makes me think Gordon is really out-of-touch with regular Wyoming. We work for a living and we're tired of the rich trust-fund and newbies to our state getting a HUGE break on their taxes while we pay for a war none of us wanted -nor was it necessary and the high cost of gas that cuts into our quality of life. Your man Gordon is promoting 2 more years of Bush Jr and we can't be having that. We're maxed out. Gordon is another CUBIN, plain and simple. "

Timmothy Schmidt wrote on Jun 22, 2008 1:05 AM:

" To Buck Safety,

As a Republican who do you suggest I vote for? Plain and simple question who else should I support? "

Try This wrote on Jun 22, 2008 3:16 PM:

" To "Bikers for Obama":

Go ahead, vote for Capt. Winney. He's a very intelligent, very accomplished man and he would make a fine Congressman.

He'll also trounce Trauner in the general election. But so will Cynthia Lummis if she wins the primary. Mark Gordon is by far the weakest candidate of the three.

To answer Timmothy Schmidt's question: Cynthia Lummis is the BEST Republican candidate for Congress. The only thing she has in common with Barbara Cubin is that they are both women and both former state legislators. The similarities end there. "

Democrat Strategy wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:00 AM:

" Some food for thought:

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government." A democracy will continue to exist up
until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a
dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith

2. From spiritual faith to great courage

3. From courage to liberty

4.From liberty to abundance

5. From abundance to complacency

6. From complacency to apathy

7. From apathy to dependence

8. From dependence back into bondage

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul,
Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Gore 19, Bush 29

Square miles of land won by: Gore 580,000, Bush: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Gore 127 million, Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2, Bush:
2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of
governmentwelfare." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the complacency and apathy phase of professor Tyler's definition
of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already
having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. If Congress grants
amnesty and citizenship to twelve million criminal invaders called illegal aliens (aka undocumented migrants or immigrants euphemistically) and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years. Apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom. "

Brandon wrote on Jun 29, 2008 2:32 PM:

" Cynthia is a fresh change to Washington. She brings change with experience. What is wrong with that people. All you people want is change and when someone mentions the word you go crazy. Its like Rudy Giuliani saying 9/11. Gordon has come out of nowhere without any experience and people skills and is hoping his links and money gets him elected. I hope Wyoming knows better and sticks with Lummis, who is anything but a Cubin Clone! "

Timmothy Schmidt wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:40 PM:

" How is she a change exactly? Mark is the one who will bring fresh change he isn't some political big-wig, just a regular guy who wants better things for our nation. "

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