" Yes, Billy, there is something fishy going on. Snow in June and another 500 year flood in the midwest (the 2nd in 15 years), unprecedented flooding around the world. In spite of the snow in Wyoming, polar ice masses continue to recede, fish are going extinct in the North Sea due to the rising temperature of that body of water. World deserts continue to expand as water in the western US is being fought over by competing states. The world's climate is shifting and one who seemingly has not been beyond the Wyoming borders or read anything beyond mainstream media and right wing propaganda is in no position to opine about global climate change. "

" How dare you make fun of the eco-god! You shall be struck down in a heat wave.
Yes it's now "climate change", I don't know where these people get off telling the earth how to cycle. These are the same ones who believe in pangia, ice covered earth, ice melted, oceans warmed pangia moved apart. Where in the earth's cycles do they want us to stay? 1995's climate or the climate of 3billion years ago? "

" Billy, you simply don't understand. Just 'cause the earth is 4 1/2 billion years old and many ice ages have come and gone, there is no excuse for climate change unless it is man caused. The earth worshippers and their high priest Algore have decreed the planet's temperture and weather patterns must remain just as they were in 1950? Oh wait, I remember the crazy weather back then; it was due to the atomic bomb tests . Never mind. "

" It seems there would be far less global warming or climate change if Gore and his followers would shut up for a month or two. Gore is looking toward a $1.3 TRILLION payday at the end of the rainbow he is painting and the companies he is aligned with are at the front of the line for the checks. "

" Another German philosopher oft quoted by Einstein said " Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain ". That explains why there are no think tanks or junior colleges in Wyarno....at least by the logic engine so often employed in these learned Comments. "

" Some one on anotheer site posted a NASA image fo the melted ice. When I questioned why the land had the same or more ice, and the water less, I was told it is an artist rendering of their "impressions". "

" Actually, with global warming theory, some places will win, some will lose. The climate models I've seen predict Wyoming will be wetter. I gotta say you have a lot of nerve putting your name behind Marion's climate = weather theory, because it is third grade stuff. "

" Even with all the enviro-fundamentalist loonieness Doomsday Prophet Gore has been spreading like fertilizer over the years, Rev. Al Gore's own personal EGI number (Energy Gluttony Index) rose by another 10% in the past year alone.

Al Gore's personal home, err... mansion, is still using over 20 times the energy of the average American family home per month, burning through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity last year, generated by those earth-murdering power plants he vociferously condemns.

tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=764

If the Global Warming Cult's High Priest, Al Gore really believed the eco-fundamentalist religious nonsense he babbles on about, he'd start living within the sustainable means of the Earth, instead of living like an irresponsible pig, hogging energy resources others around the world desperately need, while helping to reduce the "Earth's fever."

Doomsday Prophet Gore reminds me of those Televangelists who used to be on Sunday morning TV, begging for support (money), and during the week, spent their time driving around in their Porsches and showing off their mansions, saying, "I'm, a representative of God, and God deserves to drive a Porsche, and live in a mansion." The only noticeable difference is, Gore proclaims himself a representative of Mother Gaia, instead of "God," and Gore tools around in a Gulfstream private jet that spews out tons of CO2 per hour of operation, instead of a nice, shiny Porsche.

Sign the Personal Energy Ethics Pledge, Reverend Energy Hog Gore, and join the responsible people of the Earth!

epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=7616011f-802a-23ad-435e-887baa7069ca "

" Wouldnt matter much about camping anyway . The Republikan controlled gas pumps in this country wont allow for much running in the hills anymore. "

" Gee Bull, that is funny, somehow I thought Dems won control of congress the last go around and now our fuel has doubled in 2 years.
You might check, I think you will find that much fuel is off limits to avoid disturbing mice, bears, wolves, badgers, prairie dogs, sage grouse, rattle snakes, antelope, hippies, deer, coyotes, mosquitos, etc. "

" Gore runs a small business with 20 employees out of his house (and guest house), plus keeps a secret service detail there. He buys renewable sourced power through Nashville Electric’s Green Power Switch program, so sorry, no "earth [sic] murdering power plants" were used to power his home.
According to the right wing group Tennessee Policy's 2007 press release, Gore used 18,400 kilowatt hours per month in 2006. they claim his usage "rose" 10% to 17,768 this year.
Hey all you fourth graders out there, tell me what is wrong with the math that Tennessee Policy uses? "

" Bull, when Obama gets in, we might see some real change that will benefit everyone. We don't have passenger train service because the auto industry bought up the right of ways in the old days and built "free ways". Now days, the auto and oil industry buys the patents that would save us money on fuel and keeps the technology from getting into the mainstream. Technology that would benefit the average Joe is sitting on a shelf collecting dust so big oil can get all they can from the little guy. Support the right wing and you are supporting the eradication of the working middle class and the emerging serfdom of America. I hope you are preparing your children and grandchildren for long hours of manual labor for the emerging American nobility. "

" I just wonder why no one can give facts. Back when I went to school, scientist proved what they talked about. Now no one can agree on Al " I make it up as I go" Gore's electric bill.
If the earth has had cycles of ice age and warming periods, what makes All think that humans are controlling it?
Sorry, I can't believe any of this BS until they show me something real like evidence and facts. "

" BFD, NOT. If you morons would look at Gore's Inconvenient Truth, you wold see the correlation between the rapid rise in global temps and fossil fuel consumption. If you cry babies would pick up a real book or scientific journal about what is happening on the rest of the planet in terms of climate shift, you might learn something. You might even improve your intelligence quotient or at least mimic intelligence. But, NO. You rednecks just spout more hot air. Global warming should not be a political issue and it is a fact not affected by debate. What happened to the great country that tackled real problems? Oh, yeah, the country of sheep is watching Faux News and American Idol. What fools. "

" froid,

Just because we don't fall for Chicken Littlle's "The Sky is Falling"(or Al gore's "The Earth is Burning") does not make us morons or cry babies. We are realists who see beyond the faulty science of Gore and his ilk. As many reputable scientists have argued that Gor'e version of global warming is a hoax.

As for the energy (gasoline) crises in America today, I say that it is the sneaky work of the Demoncrats to force middle class and poor citizens to give up their gas guzzling, carbon fuming cars and walk or take public transportation. After all, the Demoncrats have controlled Congress for two years and see how much better off we are? Hey, it's a Left Wing Conspiracy! I'll start riding my bicycle to work when I see Al Gore riding his. "

" "If you morons would look at Gore's Inconvenient Truth, you wold see the correlation between the rapid rise in global temps and fossil fuel consumption."

You mean the infamous "Hockey Stick" graph/conclusion in Global Warming Cult Leader Al Gore's Crackpot Bible (page 65 of the book “An Inconvenient Truth“) that has been completely discredited, and is laughed at in real scientific circles? "

" Oceans are going to be the biggest threat associated with global warming. If the ocean temperature rises too much, the natural polar inversion that has occurred for millions of years could cease to exist, essentially killing all life on the planet. The threat of that is real but small. What is definitely occurring is the acidification of the ocean as more carbon is dissolved in ocean waters. This occurs both because of larger atmospheric concentrations and higher ocean temperatures, and could lead to the destruction of vast swaths of ocean life. There are already documented cases of species going to the brink of extinction because of ocean acidification. You all should watch the BBC documentary Planet Earth, and specifically the last episode, for a thorough and unbiased review of the evidence. "

" you are a moron, Mike. There is no faulty science to see beyond. The science is accepted all over the world. It is only in this country of dufus sheep are people convinced that global warming is not a fact. It is only in this country that people refuse to see beyond its borders the realities of the planet. "

" I'm still waiting to hear the explanation of how a drop from 18,400 kilowatt hours per month in 2006 to 17,768 KWH/month is a rise of 10% as the right-wing group Tennessee Policy claims?
As an Earth scientist, I can tell you that GW Debunker also doesn't know what they are talking about in regards to the Hockey Stick. It is argued about, like a lot of other scientific result are, but it is not laughed at. See this article from Nature for example:www.nature.com/nature/journal/v441/n7097/full/4411032a.html "

" I jsut read an article today, guess what, scientists have discovered that they just discovered that a huge volcano erupted under the polar ice cap, in 1999, I believe it was. You don't just suppose that might have warmed up the ice cap do you? "

" Volcanos and Al Gore gas alone contribute more "green house gases" to the atmosphere than any other sources man made or otherwise. I am still waiting for the ice age that the democraps were pushing during the 1970's. Many of the same dopes that were pushing that are not pushing the warming bunk. Guess that I'll just keep waiting. "

" Good letter- Now how do we recover the costs(taxes) that this farce has caused. Sue big AL and the his followers? "

" I can't wait for Marion to read another "scientific" article that will explain why the North Sea temps are rising to the point that the last sturgeon is now in a museum and cod are disappearing because they can't live in the warmer waters. Following the global warming and rapid melting of the ice caps will be the ice age. You guys need to read more widely. "

" Froid: maybe more people would listen to you if you weren't so insulting of others.
Climate changes.
Whether or not it's man-made is debatable.
Al Gore is making a mint out of this, exploiting it for every penny that can go his way. "

" I'm no more insulting than the nuts who think global warming is a political issue. I'm stooping to their level of discourse. It's really fun, actually. Your stupid "debate" about global warming has the slopeheaded nimrods believing that global warming does not exist. Who is responsible for turning a scientific fact into a political issue and confounding the truth of global warming no matter what the cause? How much money is at stake for the oil profiteers if Americans join the rest of the world and endeavor to take action to solve our climate crisis? Not nearly what Gore is reaping from his presentation. If it weren't true, the protest wouldn't be so loud and obnoxious and emotional. "

" Didn't Al Gore invent the internet?
Once a liar........ "

" People will change when they are motivated to do so. Lectures and invented crisis will never be the positive influence needed for this. Until then we all must endure more and more of the Chicken Little "the sky is falling" dogma, all the while Al Gore and his cronies are getting rich off of the ignorant fools with weak enough minds to swallow his bait hook, line and sinker. "

" recent climate data actually shows that the major ocean basins are cooling.

also, do not confuse current, or recent weather conditions with climate trends.

start doing the research on your own looking for the actual findings of science and try to disreguard the spin, hype and out right lies told to push anyone's agenda (and make them richer in the process of the panick). "

" What is it about the earth's rise in temperature that you right wingers do not understand? The earth's average temperature has risen and continues to increase. Why can't you separate this fact from your inane debate about the cause? Who cares about the cause? People should be getting ready for the next phase which will be rising shore lines and water tables. We are seeing the effects of global warming now with radical shifts in weather patterns. What more do you need? "

" Should we use natural resources more slowly and efficiently? Of course!

Should we reduce waste and pollution? Of course!

Should we seek alternative fuels and materials? Of course!

Do we need people in leadership or other public positions of influence to fabricate a disaster to force social change to accomplish any of the above? Of course not!

And the "why not" is simple; when you lie once, you must lie again. In time the liar will be caught. Second, when you force people to change what do they do? They fight change. So why not use our social tools to include government and economics to create sound and lasting change for the better? Why not create stronger incentives for people to do the right things? Once business finds a way to make anything profitable, they will do it to meet consumer demand. We have to work with human nature, not against it, or this and any other project will always fail. Human nature is a powerful opponent or ally. "

" roger, Wyoming starts at about 5,000 feet ASL. We have little to worry about.

Don't let that secret out however or Hollyweird and all of the other fruits and nuts will move here ASAP.

We have grown our population to much and to fast as it is for all the newcomers to acculturate and we've also build out into habitat that should have been left as open space forever. "

" What I object to are the holier-than-thou greenies pointing fingers at their neighbors, saying it's their fault, meanwhile jetsetting around the globe to preach their green sermons. THAT'S the issue. Yes, we need to conserve resources, be prudent with consumption. But I really resent it when there are folks preaching at me that know nothing of the way I live. I wear hand-me-downs, recycle (what I can here, ha, what a joke), eat left-overs, rarely buy anything. Yet when people point out that it may be the LEFT that is politicizing the issue, that maybe, just maybe, the earth will carry on in spite of what humans do to it, y'all go nuts!!
Guess what, we left the cave a long time ago and it all has an impact. Should we go back to the cave?
This is a HUMAN issue. In my view, it is the political left that has made it a divisive issue. "

" When you live in Beverly Hills behind tall iron gates with private security and have millions and millions of dollars in the bank it is very easy to look down your out of touch nose and tell others struggling to get by how they should live and what they can and cannot have. "

" The self-serving, manipulative wealthy created this throw-away consumer mentality that America and most of the world finds itself stuck in and now Hollywood and the rich liberal elite are all telling us that what they marketed to us in ads and sold us on is now no good. OK, I agree, but you created and sold us on it, so now it is up to you to bear the burden of fixing it, not me and my family, we merely bought off on your sales scheme. Your rich king pins garbage thrown away annually is worth more than what most of us make in our salaries. "

" Al Gore's utility bill is more than I make. How can I take this fat rich idiot seriously when I am working two shifts to buy all the junk that the TV tells me I HAVE to have? "

" You'd think that the old gal wearing the Chairman Mao pants suite and the flashy young Chicago lawyer that keep trying to appeal to all of us at the bottom of the economic ladder would get it that we aren't genna swallow their new rules for living if they themselves are not going to do it too. Once I see thier skivvies on a cloths line getting dried I might consider not using the drier too. I am not rich or a lawyer but I deserve to lead the best life that I can afford to. "

" The earth has always been changing in one way or another. Mankind used to be more flexible and capable of change and recovering from its aftermath. We no longer are because now we expect everyday to be the same perfect problem free day that yesterday was and all the days before it. We are inflexible because there are just to d_mned many of us on this little planet with its limited resources. This is the heart of all of our problems from road-rage to pollution to wars. "

" jambo, let's just think about wyoming and forget about the rest of the planet. that about sums up the mentality of this state. "

" too bad for the author of this letter he did not get a whole lot out of elementary geography. Weather and Climate are not the same thing. Climate is a long term trend, weather is day to day. The fact that WEATHER patterns are weird absolutely supports the evidence of GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE. But, to learn this, you yo-yos would have to do independent research, which would obviously be too much of a stretch for your limited capacities. Intellectual laziness is the biggest threat this nation faces, and these blogs prove the point. "

" roger, I am "thinking globally and acting locally." Isn't this one of the mantras of the eco movement? Geeze whiz! You can't make these nuts happy even when you practice what they preach! "

" May be the message would be better received if the messenger had some credibility?

Al Gore is an inept, unaccomplished democrat droid. He was the silent second man in the most corrupt and ineffective administration ever to darken the oval office.

Now he lectures all of us from his high, mighty and palatial perch while jetting around the planet creating green house gases and wasting precious limited fossil fuel resources in rock star fashion all the while saying it is OK because he is paying for it by purchasing non-existent made-up "get out of jail free cards" in the form of these phony get rich quick carbon credits (from his own "green" company). What a load of cr_p from a load of cr_p!

Nonetheless, I cannot stand to look at or listen to this global lying blow hard. I have never had any respect for Al Gore and I never will. "

" Erin,

Yiou can't still be spewing that crap about "the most corrupt administration" in light of the tricks Bush has pulled can you? How does ruining a blue dress equate to 4,000 dead Americans and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis equate to the Clinton record?

Perhaps you live in bizarro world. "

" Erin: how do you measure corruption and ineffectiveness? Clinton didn't have 911 on his watch, and during his term, FEMA was highly respected for cost-effective delivery of services.
What a concept, as opposed to "heck of a job Brownie!"
Erin, do you have any idea how much money has been stolen, wasted, lost by Bush's misadventure in Iraq? Billions. "

" Sorry Marion. Scientists aren't giving your volcanos in the Arctic theory much credence: see dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/whats-up-with-volcanoes-under-arctic-sea-ice/ "

" For all ye doubters.
Wall Street Journal has a story today about how seriously the insurance companies are taking the threat of global warming. I'm no fan of insurance companies, but when they say a threat is real, I tend to believe them.
See: online.wsj.com/article/SB121487523491418103.html?mod=googlenews_wsj "

" Mark and Inky, Bill Clinton's only real challenges while in the White House were of his own creation. George W. Bush on the other hand was handed an out of control, poorly regulated economy, was attached by crazy Muslims and has had to deal with several natural disasters all one on top of the other. I'd say that President Bush has more than accounted for himself as evidences his strong and enduring leadership in spite of the negative rhetoric and made up conspiracy theories pushed out into the public forum by the left. The President can't sip a glass of water without one of you turn-coat nuts making a crazy allegation about that activity. Grow up and learn to deal in provable facts not your silly Hollywood fiction! "

" LOLOL Wow INKY that whole WSJ article is about How insurance company are using flawed data inputed into a computer program to show worse case results in order to raise premiums And profits.

EXerpt from WSJ Report:

Perhaps the most prominent critic to surface is Karen Clark, an economist who founded one of the first cat-modeling firms two decades ago. Today, she warns about the programs' misapplication.

After Katrina, she attended insurance-company meetings to discuss "what went wrong" and concluded that there were more problems with how insurers were using the models than with the models themselves.

Companies that rely too heavily on cat-model data "are subjecting their businesses and their customers to the volatility of computer models," says Ms. Clark, who now runs a Boston cat-model consulting business. "The models are being used as if they produce definitive answers rather than uncertain estimates." Ms. Clark says she advises clients to use them in conjunction with other factors, such as broad historical data.

To be sure, insurers themselves are facing higher rates from the reinsurance companies that backstop their claims. The reinsurers, and the financial ratings agencies that assess the health of carriers, are also using the controversial newer models.

Insurance companies say their cat models are generally reliable and credit them with sharply reducing the number of carriers that have failed following major disasters in recent years.


This is a perfect example of how some businesses use peoples fears of the Unknown future to make huge profits. The green movement is NOT about saving the planet.! it is about MONEY plain and simple!

Loretta Andreasson has lived in the same Cape Cod ranch house in Harwich, Mass., for 30 years, and in all that time, a hurricane hasn't come close to damaging her property. But in late 2006, her longtime insurer, Patrons Mutual Insurance Co., decided the risk was too great and dropped her policy. The company says it chose not to renew 844 policies in the Cape in 2006, based primarily on a 107% increase in their cost of reinsurance. Patrons acknowledges that it used a cat model from RMS in its decision-making. "

" When fossil fuel is not longer economically feasible new options will come to the market place. Government will not solve this and should not seek to. It is not governments place to do so or its intended purpose. Let the free market place work as it always has and always will. The government is not the parent of the people, we are the keepers of the government because we allow it to exist not the other way around (or we are no more than slaves to it). The same can be said of and applied to "going green." Once that is profitable, inventive people will make money doing so, and the consumers will then demand the new products and services in ever increasing amounts. "

" Where is Nancy Pelosi's grand gas plan that she promised the new democrat congress would have out in short order 2 years ago? Where I ask, where? Was she just making up words to draw in support and acclaim? Was that all just grandstanding? That wouldn't be ethical and she also promised the most ethical congress that the democrats could buy. Maybe there was not enough money in the freezer? "

" Let the sea level rise, and I hope it happens fast. Most of the worlds bloated cities are within 50 miles of a coast and most all of humanities problems are due to over population. We could solve many problems with a really, really high tide. "