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Three Wyoming politicians threw their support behind Republican U.S. House candidate Cynthia Lummis during a press conference Monday in Casper.

Former Gov. Jim Geringer said Wyoming's lone representative in Congress should understand the issues facing the country and the process through which change can occur.

He said Lummis knows a lot about energy and the economy through her work in the Wyoming Legislature and as state treasurer.

"It's the demonstrated leadership in character measured over time that most counts," Geringer said. "You need to be able to bring people together, persuade people to the right outcome and be persuaded if need be."

Lummis demonstrated this when she advocated for changes in the state's investment policies while in the Legislature and implemented them as state treasurer, Geringer said.

Lummis, a Cheyenne resident, said she was able to take the state's investments from $3.5 billion a year to $8 billion a year and diversify the state's portfolio.

Next week, Lummis faces three other Republican candidates during the primary for the U.S. House seat being vacated by Rep. Barbara Cubin after 14 years.

Others running in the Aug.19 primary for the party's nomination are Mark Gordon, a rancher and businessman from Buffalo, former Navy officer Bill Winney of Bondurant, and physician Michael Holland of Green River.

The winner will face Democrat Gary Trauner of Wilson and Libertarian David Herbert of Cody in the general election Nov. 4.

In one of his campaign ads, Gordon has criticized Lummis' vote cast in the Legislature against a 1981 bill about veterans' benefits.

Sen. Charles Scott, R-Casper, came to the press conference Monday to defend Lummis' vote against the bill.

"She and I voted exactly the same way," Scott said. Lummis and Scott shared the same freshman year in the Legislature during the 1979 session.

Scott said they voted against it because it didn't define who would be eligible for veterans' tax exemptions. He said they were both in favor of the concept. After the population was more defined, both Lummis and Scott voted to pass the bill.

"Sometimes you have to vote against something you feel is basically going the right way, but they haven't quite got it right," Scott said.

Gordon said Lummis "flip-flopped her vote" and should have exerted more leadership in getting the bill fixed than just voting against it in the beginning.

"Veterans are extremely important and should be treated that way," Gordon said in a phone interview.

Stan Lowe, commander of American Legion Post 2 and former director of the Wyoming Veterans' Affairs Commission, said he came to the press conference to clarify what happened with the 1981 bill.

"I commend Cynthia and Charlie for what they did to contribute to the correctness and rightness of the bill," Lowe said. "Cynthia has a record that is most enviable in regard to her support for veterans in the state."

Rick Tempest, former speaker of the Wyoming House, also offered his support to Lummis.

Gordon also released a list of endorsements Monday including 34 Wyoming small business owners. Also, former U.S. Sen. Malcolm Wallop and current Secretary of State Joe Meyer have endorsed him.

"It's been a good race," Gordon said. "I don't know if it's been heated. We are just discussing records and issues."

Lummis said she wanted to get back to the issues during this final week before the primary -- issues including energy and the economy.

"We're trying to reduce the drama of last week and refocus on the issues at hand," Lummis said after the press conference. "It's not unusual for the wheels to get off the track in the weeks before an election."

Contact reporter Allison Rupp at (307) 266-0534 or allison.rupp@trib.com.


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Experience Counts wrote on Aug 12, 2008 8:51 AM:

" You know Mark Gordon's candidacy is in BIG trouble when he has to reach back 27 YEARS to find something negative to use against Cynthia Lummis! Are you just a little desperate, Mark??

Cynthia Lummis is the only qualified, experienced candidate in the race and Mark Gordon knows it. Obviously! "

Otter wrote on Aug 12, 2008 9:13 AM:

" That's funny that Cynthia wants to get back to the issues. Wasn't it her paid staffer who started the mud-slinging by sending out a mass email attacking Mark's family? I sure don't want her and her sleazy tactics representing Wyoming in Washington! "

Realist wrote on Aug 12, 2008 10:59 AM:

" Just draw a name out of a hat. It doesn't matter which one gets the nomination - they will just follow along with the party line like all the rest of the GOP lemmings. Negative campaigning is the foundation of the republican game plan, so they might as well get warmed up against each other in the primary, then they will be all ready to commence with the negative campaign for the general. I would really like to hear something positive that a republican candidate wants to do rather than hearing nothing but negative attacks on their opponents. Don't tell me why I shouldn't vote for someone else; tell me why I should vote for you; if your reasons are convincing, you might get my vote. If all you can do is tell me why I shouldn't vote for someone else, I will vote for them if they will tell me what they stand for. "

Mad Voter wrote on Aug 12, 2008 11:01 AM:

" In response to Experience Counts, Cynthia is running on her record in State Government so all her votes matter. Did you know she voted to allow flag burning? As a Veteran that really bothers me. In my view Cynthia is not fit to run a brothel. "

Friendly Ghost wrote on Aug 12, 2008 11:04 AM:

" Oh a bunch of old politicians endorsing one of their cronies and defending her. That's a big surprise. "

Brandon wrote on Aug 12, 2008 11:26 AM:

" Otter, Bill Cubin who is not a paid staffer for Lummis came out against Gordon's neagtive attacks and simply pointed out that Jenni Gordon said a week before Mark went negative that her husband would be postiive. He stated Mark made his wife a Liar and its true. Thats the only remark he made.

Mad Voter, You are confusing Cynthia with another female legislator at that time. Cubin voted in the Legistaure for Flag-Burning not Cynthia.

Before you attack one of the best candidates we have left in WY get ur facts straight!

Mark Gordon went negative in a Primary. If he were a concerned businessman who wanted to change Washington he wouldn't have resorted to Washington antics of attacking political opponents. "

Eskimo Pie wrote on Aug 12, 2008 11:27 AM:

" Lummis' and her surrogates have pounded Gordon on what he has done as a private citizen with his own money since February. Fair enough, he has answered all of it. Lummis should be scrutinized for what she has done as an elected official with OUR tax dollars. Moving out of the Capitol at tax payers' expense increasing her budget by millions and staff by over 50%. Her voting record should be evaluated and answered to the voting publics satisfaction. "

Going Blue wrote on Aug 12, 2008 1:21 PM:

" Trauner understands Wyoming better than Lummis does. Lummis has lived on her ranch all her life, made a few BAD votes, and will sell Wyoming down the river. Not what Wyoming needs as a rep anywhere, leastways of all in DC. We need someone who can FIX things, lots of them that Cubin did very wrong. Lummis is another Cubin and that's exactly what we don't need. "

Experience is the trump card wrote on Aug 12, 2008 1:29 PM:

" Come on, folks - this isn't even close: Lummis knows our state - the Treasurer's office sees all the fund flows. Lummis knows how to move bills through a legislature, and will be productive 'day one' in D.C. without a learning curve. Legislative experience also teaches you how to strategically slow things down, skills the GOP will need in the House. It's going to be challenging for the GOP to be in the minority, not a lot of fun, and Lummis is going to keep up the good fight. Gordon supported Trauner, for crying out loud. Say what you will about Cubin's absenteeism and gaffes, but 99% of her votes were what the good people of Wyoming wanted. Trauner announced at moveon.org. Enough said! "

Done Deal wrote on Aug 12, 2008 9:27 PM:

" So Gordon criticizes Cynthia for voting against the bill and not exerting more leadership to make it a better bill.

Isn't that why he claims he donated to the democrats, because he wasn't happy with the republicans and voted against them?

Shouldn't he have exerted more leadership to help transform the GOP? He certainly had enough money to do that but instead put his money where is heart is...in the democratic party.

His biggest downfall this election is the trust factor. You just have no idea what he truly believes when he's given money to people who don't stand for any of the things he claims to stand for in his ads.

Apparently 1+ million dollars still can't always package something up, make it pretty and sell it.

To me its not even about the Sierra Club. But other issues like for him to say he supports tax cuts and making the Bush tax cuts permanent but four years ago financially supported the candidate who expressly wanted to do the opposite you really have to wonder what his true beliefs are. "

Rusty wrote on Aug 12, 2008 9:41 PM:

" Eskimo Pie is either Fred or Lisa Parady or Trent Blankenship. Fred's just mad because HE lost the last State Treasurer's race and Cynthia served with distinction for 8 years, making a TON of $$$ for Wyoming. Sour grapes, I'd say. Go back to your igloo! "

oh ugg... wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:51 AM:

" Please...moving bills through...are you kidding me!!! Ugg...wow like someone can't make up a bill and present it on the floor, it's not rocket science. I'm sick and tired of the way politicians present and push through thier bills, they'd rather kill a bill than work at it...ugg politicians are so LAZY!!! If someone new has to come in maybe they'll question the system. But I'm not impressed wtih Cynthia's flip-flopping...her vote against veterans, why would you EVER do such a thing especailly when you have other conservative republicans voting for the bill (look it up) She sided with the dems on that vote and flipped later when she came under a little pressure i bet. She likes to try to keep a good image...but seriously I'm tired of that plastic smile...ugg. "

Brandon wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:20 AM:

" Look at their actions in the Legislature, Lummis worked with both sides to pass a balanced budget, and Cubin kept to herself and critized the other side. Cubin always goes negative, and Lummis doesn't unless she is attacked first. The only thing the same about the 2 is that they are women, and they served in the legislature. "

BURN THE FLAG wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:28 AM:

" IT STANDS FOR NOTHING WE ARE A COUNTRY IN THE THROWS OF CAPITAL FASCISM AND THATS THE REAL TRUTH. THE FLAG IS A FAUX SYMBOL OF DEMOCRACY THAT DIED WITH FISA AND NSA SNOOPS AND ALL LOCAL AND STATES COPS WERE FEDERALIZED, BET YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT.
LAND OF THE FREE -- LAND OF THE MONITORED---BURN THE FLAG AS OFTEN AND AS MANY TIMES AS IT TAKES FOR THE DUMMIES IN AMERICA TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THEY WERE SOLD DOWN THE RIVER DECADES AGO AND IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE WITH EACH DICTATORIAL PUPPETS FOR THE SUPER RICH. I THINK I WILL GET A DOLLAR STORE FLAG FROM CHINA TO PROTEST THE YELLOW PERIL, NAFTA AND CAFTA. BTR THAN FAKE PATRIOTIC DAY LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY. BURN A FLAG TODAY, IT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL YOU STILL HAVE SOME RIGHTS. "

Trueconserv wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:41 AM:

" all this stuff about "increasing her staff by 50%",,,,,,,what, did she go from like 6 to 12??? To manage an $11 BILLION asset?? Thing is, if she would have been a Dem or an "Independent" like Trauner or Gordon, wouldnt have been a problem cause they would have made sure it was spent, instead of saved and invested-----
Lummis has mine, and my families, vote. She will stand up to Pelosi and her crowd back there and make sure that they dont do anymore damage to Wyoming than they already have!!! "

Einstein wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:40 PM:

" BURN THE FLAG, Calm down now Moo-Ham-Head, your fella Obama will be in Denver soon and you can go tell him all about your problems. Maybe you can enjoy some hubbly-bubble pipe smoke together under the big tent with the camels tethered out back and read a little ko-ran. "

Maybe not rocket sciencebut... wrote on Aug 13, 2008 5:07 PM:

" To oh ugg, Maybe it is not rocket science, but by your post, you can tell, you really don't understand it. You don't vote for bad bills because you support the idea. You can get all kinds of unintended consequences doing that. She voted to support Veterans and that is very clear by all the people who support her. Mark Gordon's recent rants about old bills and his really stupid sexist commercial continue to tell us he is wrong for Wyoming. Putting his wife out there to write name dropping letters, falsely claiming to run a clean campaign and then complaining when she becomes an issue reminds me of another politician we have out there now. Want it both ways. "

Gordon Supporters wrote on Aug 13, 2008 5:57 PM:

" I've noticed mnany of Gordon's people don't defend him after facts are brought up (how has he defending it Eskimo Pie? -- see Done Dea'ls comments) They instead attack Cynthia or BC (attention Gordon supporters -- she's not even running).

They are like the drive by media -- attack and run away, attack and run away.

Very telling about the depth of his support. Voting against something isn't enough to win, you have to believe in something too. Cynthia's people seem to have that, Gordon's don't so this one goes to CL, IMHO. "

Wyo Boy wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:36 PM:

" Hey Realist. Are you also Unbelievable? If not your using the same Democrat-issued whack job talking points. "GOP Lemmings;" can't you come up with something better my marxist friend? "

Wyo Boy wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:48 PM:

" Trueconserv, you are exactly right. The strategies that Lummis perfected on the investment side have done wonders for the State's return on its permanent investments and these actions will ensure Wyoming financial future for many decades to come. I have no doubt that she will employ these same strategies when in DC.

One thing is certain, give a Lib a buck and they WILL make sure it's spent; oh excuse me, they WILL make sure it's "invested." "

Owens wrote on Aug 18, 2008 12:46 PM:

" Liberals only know how to spend a pay check as few of them has ever written a pay check. Consumption of tax dollars does not equate to an investment. Investments have a return on them. If you do not fully understand economics you are unfit in today's world to be in charge and thus should not run for any office, not even dog catcher. "

Sick of it wrote on Aug 18, 2008 2:03 PM:

" Mark's latest fliers tell more about him than we care to know. Republicans are not lemmings (whatever those are) and we will not vote for him in the general. He is taking information out of context and looking stupid. "

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