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U.S. House of Represenative elect Cynthia Lummis hugs her daughter Annaliese Wiederspahn after recieving news from the Associated Press that she won the race. Photo by Tim Kupsick, Star-Tribune

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CHEYENNE -- Walt Geis entered the voting booth in Shoshoni on Tuesday knowing that national Democrats would likely win the White House and add to their numbers in Congress -- but he was sure that Wyoming would vote solidly Republican.

"I was very confident that Wyoming still had enough courage to stick to their beliefs and not be wavered by the big flashy candidate," said Geis, a Republican who works as a state brand inspector in Fremont County.

He could scarcely have been more correct.

GOP candidates in Wyoming shellacked their Democratic opponents at just about every level, adding to Wyoming's reputation as one of the most Republican of states.

At the national level, Wyoming voters handed Sen. John McCain his largest margin of victory of any state except Oklahoma.

Sixty-five percent of Wyoming voters supported the Arizona senator, while less than 33 percent supported President-elect Barack Obama.

Wyoming's support for McCain even surpassed Republican strongholds Idaho and Utah. In Idaho, 62 percent of voters supported McCain; 36 percent were for Obama. In Utah, 63 percent supported McCain; 34 percent were for Obama.

Wyoming voters overwhelmingly voted for Republican candidates in all three congressional races.

U.S. Sens. Mike Enzi and John Barrasso defeated two Democratic candidates whose campaigns never really got off the ground.

Enzi beat University of Wyoming professor Chris Rothfuss with 76 percent of the vote to Rothfuss' 24 percent. Barrasso toppled Gillette attorney Nick Carter with 73 percent of the vote to Carter's 27 percent.

Even in the race for U.S. House, where Democrat Gary Trauner raised hundreds of thousands of dollars and campaigned for years, it wasn't enough to slice through Wyoming's bright Republican red.

Despite polls just days before the election showing Trauner in a dead heat with Republican Cynthia Lummis, Lummis prevailed by a 10-point margin.

UW political scientist Jim King said Trauner's real fault was his inability to distinguish himself sufficiently from Lummis on the issues. The voters fell back on their party affiliation in the voting booth as a result.

"For all that was spent in energy and money, Trauner was not able to truly differentiate himself from Lummis," King said. "In a GOP state, a Democrat can't have that."

Lummis said in a Wednesday morning meeting with reporters that her campaign benefited from an appearance by Vice President Dick Cheney and a series of public debates on the issues in the final days of the election.

"I too was very, very surprised by the margin of victory because I felt throughout the race that it was extremely close," Lummis said.

Republicans also dominated in statehouse races, where unofficial results from The Associated Press show Republicans defeated Democrats in all five contested races in the state Senate.

Republicans ran unopposed in nine races while Democrats ran unopposed in two.

Before the election, Republicans outnumbered Democrats in the state Senate by a margin of 23-7. In the House, they outnumbered Democrats 43-17.

Democrats had hoped to win 21 seats in the Legislature, giving them enough votes to protect a gubernatorial veto.

Depending on the outcome of a recount in one Teton County race, the Democrats could pick up one seat, bringing their total to a mere 19 seats.

UW's King said there was every reason to expect Republicans to make a strong showing Tuesday. Wyoming is far too red to be swayed easily by what's happening on the national political stage, he said.

"There wasn't the type of broad (national) movement that would have shifted Wyoming," King said.

Amy Larimer, executive director of the Wyoming Republican Party, said voters in Wyoming were energized by the candidates on the Republican ticket.

They were proud to vote for McCain and thrilled to re-elect Enzi and elect Barrasso, both of whom have been "phenomenal" and "really great Republicans," Larimer said.

They also showed their faith in Lummis as a tested leader, she said.

Larimer said state Republicans vote for GOP candidates because they cherish the party's values.

"People in Wyoming have Republican values," she said. "They believe in lower taxes, less government and a stronger national defense."

Bill Luckett, executive director of the Wyoming Democratic Party, agreed that the excitement of the presidential race and two incumbent senators on the ballot helped down-ticket Republicans.

Otherwise, he said, Trauner would have had a good shot of defeating Lummis.

"If the U.S. House race was isolated on the ballot without those Senate races, you would have seen a different result," Luckett said.

"We started out with an incredible disadvantage and didn't quite get past it this time," he added.

Lewis Newman of Casper, a Republican and lifelong Wyoming resident, said he wasn't a bit surprised to see the GOP dominate Tuesday -- but he's not sure it's such a good thing.

It's not healthy for the Republicans to have so much power, Newman said.

"If they took Saddam Hussein and put an 'R' behind his name, he would get elected in this state," Newman said. "Voters don't give two thoughts to who they send back to Washington."

Gov. Dave Freudenthal, the state's only Democratic statewide office holder, said one reason for the lack of political competition in Wyoming is the low expectation of congressional delegates.

Freudenthal, who endorsed Obama and Trauner, said voters and the state news media accept the argument from GOP delegates that more can't be done for Wyoming because Washington, D.C., is fundamentally hostile toward the state.

"What we've done is accepted this argument that we are just Wyoming and we can't get much done," Freudenthal said. "I don't think we expect enough."

Freudenthal also placed responsibility on state Democratic candidates, who he said tend to talk about issues that interest them instead of issues important to Wyoming voters.

"The Democrats who are successful talk about what matters in their districts," said Freudenthal, adding that Wyoming today is similar in some ways to the Deep South when Democrats dominated all of politics there.

"So we really don't have a two-party system," he said.

Contact capital bureau reporter Jared Miller at (307) 632-1244 or jared.miller@trib.com

Seeing red

Arizona Sen. John McCain easily won Wyoming's three electoral votes. In fact, only Oklahoma was more supportive of McCain in voting Tuesday. Here's a look at how some of the nation's most Republican states voted in the presidential race:

Oklahoma

McCain: 65.6 percent

Obama: 34.4 percent

Wyoming

McCain: 65.2 percent

Obama: 32.7 percent

Utah

McCain: 62.9 percent

Obama: 34.2 percent

Idaho

McCain: 61.5 percent

Obama: 36.1 percent

Alabama

McCain: 60.4 percent

Obama: 38.8 percent


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Curious wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:11 AM:

" Where did the comments go? I looked on here a little while ago and there were some good comments, now I check back to see what has been added and there are no comments. I wonder if it's a waste of time to submit comments??? "

Curious wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:44 AM:

" Now can you put back the comments that were already previously posted? There were some excellent comments. "

Ryan wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:02 AM:

" The answer is simple.

We vote on principals and logic here.

We do not vote on emotion and unspecified, nebulous hope.

The major urban centers are filled with irrational, ill educated, emotive people.

We in the rural parts of the nation make a living based on our wits and hard work. Not chasing frivolous endeavors. "

Realist wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:07 AM:

" Unreasonable Wyoming is more like it. "

free2bme wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:12 PM:

" Ryan, your comments noted, however, I think it is more on the line of Wyoming doesnt want change, wyoming is set in their ways and not open to anything else. The rest of the world moves on and we are part of it, rather acknowledged or not! I dont believe people elsewhere follow the stero type you indicated, actually some rather intelligent, community oriented and strong Americans out there. I am one of them! "

Robin wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:24 PM:

" It's true that 'the blind lead the blind'. Here, the blind follow the blind and Wyoming continues to be in the dark. "

Robin wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:32 PM:

" It's true that 'the blind lead the blind'. Here, it's also true that the blind follow the blind and Wyoming is still in the dark. "

The Truth wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:33 PM:

" Wonderful Wyoming! "

ohhhhhhBS wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:02 PM:

" Soooo Lewis, if it's not healthy to have one party dominate over another, how are you liking things on the national level? Demoncrats in charge of everything------but I really am excited, because like the woman on YouTube, I can't wait for Barack Hussain Obama to start paying for my gasoline, my mortgage payments, and paying for my health insurance. I'M GONNA BE ON EASY STREET NOW!!! "

Howard wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:39 PM:

" Thinking people are not swayed by flowery talk and celebrity endorsements. When and if the democrats focus on the right issues, and deliver based on sound economic processes, then I may pay some attention to them. "

Say it again wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:44 PM:

" My comment was deleted, so I'll say again that I'm happy even though WY will blindly continue to vote for a deteriorating party we can still rely on the rest of America to take a step forward to a more positive outcome than what the republicans had in store for us. Not EVERYone in the U.S. is wrong, the Democrats clearly won out overall, so if WY wants to live in the past they can. I am a Wyoming native and I voted for Obama and I will vote for Trauner a third time if he runs again in two years. Change is coming and it's time to accept it bcs you are outnumbered WY "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:14 PM:

" It is not courageous to vote for every candidate from one political party no matter who they are or what they stand for; it's idiotic. No wonder the rest of the country and the world think we are a bunch of mindless hicks; they might be onto something. Bush and the republican party got drunk on power and have wandered so far away from the principles that the party is supposed to stand for that I cannot believe anyone would still be supporting their wreckless, irresponsible policies and their nasty divisive politics. Thank god the overwhelming majority in this country is smart enough to save us from ourselves. It's no wonder that this current republican party is being removed from power; I don't know what they expected after their performance over the last decade. Those of you who voted for these corrupt so called republicans are partially responsible for the mess that they have created. There is nothing conservative about the current republican party; they have run up record deficits and have tripled the national debt. You cannot spend like drunken sailors and lower revenues by giving away the treasury to the wealthiest Americans who did not need, were not asking for, and who the country could not afford to give tax cuts to. It is completely irresponsible to run up huge debt that our children and grandchildren will have to deal with in order to enrich the wealthiest Americans who do not need the help while ignoring the needs of the middle class who are struggling and really do need some relief. The really funny part is that the overwhelming majority of the republicans in Wyoming are not rich enough to get any benefit from the policies that the republican party has been pursuing, but blindly support the party anyway...I guess because they bought into the argument long ago that the democrats are going to take their guns away. News Flash: noone is going to take your guns away; you will see that president Obama will not take your guns away; fact is that there are so many guns in this country that noone could take our guns away even if they wanted to, which noone in either party is advocating anyway. Our population is rapidly increasing and the newcomers are not brainwashed into blindly supporting this corrupt republican party, so it's just a matter of time until you right-wing hacks will be the minority party even in Wyoming; don't worry, the democrats will look out for you even if you aren't smart enough to look out for yourselves. Through the entire election campaign cycle I still haven't heard one single rational argument for what the republican party has done right in the last eight years, what they think they could do right in the future, or one positive message that would encourage anyone with a brain to support their efforts; all I have heard from any republican is false accusations, negative comments, derrogatory remarks, and fear mongering. The American people are tired of the failed policies and negative politics of the gop. If the republican party ever wants to have a chance to become a viable party for the future, they need to do some soul searching and figure out how to change their policies and politics to being on the side of the people instead of big business, big energy, and Wall Street. "

Facts wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:17 PM:

" You have to figure out what it is that you, yourself stand for. If the principals of one party or the other best represent your foundational values, then that is the party to vote for. Without unity and numbers, you cannot effect real, enduring change. Not in our current political system anyway. For many of us that believe in smaller government, lower taxes, strong national defense and personal freedoms the Republican party best represents our values. Generally, only the self reliant, confident members of our society are drawn to the Republican party. As we have fewer and few people in America that are willing to take responsibility for themselves and their families, the socialist of the democratic left will continue to grow and our nation of freedom and real opportunity will sink. "

Just Wondering wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:39 PM:

" Why all the hate and insults pointed at people who voted republican? I thought Dems were supposed to be kind open minded people.

Also, if you don't like WY or the political beliefs of the majority of the population, why don't you just do all of us a favor and leave instead of whining?

The comments of posters such as Casper Resident is in some regards humorous, but the unwillingness to objectively analyze the reasons behind the way most WY people vote is scary.

I for one am going to give the next 4 years a chance and "hope" that something good is accomplished, but I have doubts, because both political parties are failing us. "

Shepard wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:20 PM:

" If no one stands for anything, then we all stand for nothing.

Is that the America you want?

That is Obama's America. "

aunt b wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:45 PM:

" Just Wondering: Not all the hate and insults are coming from democrats. I spent the entire day yesterday post-election results with angry...and I mean ANGRY republicans voicing their (ignorant) opinions everywhere from at my office to the corner store. I just wanted to be excited for the changes that our country will be experiencing over the next four years and actually give someone a chance to do something good for our country and rebuild our economy and our global image! It seems that being part of a minority party in a red state will only get you put down for actually having faith in a candidate who wants to do good things for his fellow americans...and supporting Wyoming democratic candidates who might provide much needed attention to areas of our towns, counties and state that have been neglected in the past by republican party members with their own agendas.
I personally can respect anyone's right to their own opinions, but I should not be shunned for my own. I was born and raised in this beautiful state that I call home and I am NOT going anywhere. And Casper Resident, god bless you for your knowledgeable comments on here and I am with you...it breaks my heart to think that my son and other children in this country will be dealing with the deficit that the current republican regime has left us with! And you are right, policies that just increase the amount of tax breaks wealthy families and huge corporations get (the rich keep getting richer) will not affect the people who blindly vote for a republican party member....unless you are making upwards of six figures or more! I am a hard working middle class mother who actually cares about her fellow americans and would like to see them get a hand up, but not a hand out. I actually heard a republican yesterday say, "I am just going to quit my job and go on Welfare so that I don't have to pay taxes to support other people" wow....whatever happened to caring about other people and not tying conditions to it? "

KMAINWY wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:11 PM:

" I have noticed that the the viceral, insulting, hateful comments mostly come from liberals. What pitiful people they are. They have won most of what thay wanted with BHO as the next president and a democrat majority in both houses of congress as well. Yet it is just not enough. It never will be. "

Lonnie wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:30 PM:

" It is not ignorant to fear a government that intends to punish personal rewards received via hard work and American ingenuity, why work your way to the top to be beaten back down by the tax man. It is not ignorant to fear a government that promises to slash defense spending in such uncertain and violent time before the new head of that government has even received one top level national security brief. It is not ignorant to fear a government that places diversity ahead of secure boarders and national sovereignty. "

Yep I am angry wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:58 PM:

" The fact that we are entering into a wealth redistribution mentality makes this hard working middle class citizen angry. I've worked very hard to get to where I am, and now that I have started to have some success after a very long haul, I am faced with having what I have earned being taken away from me to support lazy people who feel entitled. Sorry, but outside of those who serve in the military, you and YOUR kids are not my responsibility. And just because my viewpoints are different than yours, they are not based on ignorance. Rather I am quite knowledgeable about the issues and I simply have a different perspective. Hate to break this to you, but the current financial meltdown is more a fault of the Democrats than the Republicans, so if you really care about the country so much, then maybe you should start viewing things objectively instead of emotionally. "

WhyOming wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:51 PM:

" It's simple . . . Wyoming will always be a backwater. "

Darce Kruuze wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:19 AM:

" I look at those voting percentages and what I see are Red necks, racists, and dumb as*es. Thank god the rest of the country got to decide who is going to be our next president and not the people in those states. Good job Wyoming, you just barely beat out Utah in terms of backwards closemindedness. But it's odd you didn't beat Oklahomophobe. Maybe because there's more Texan patch trash up here than Okies. I'm middle class too and I'm looking forward to affordable healthcare, college and the tax cut Obama is going to give us instead of the rich getting all the money. November 4, 2008 was a great day. The next great day is coming up, January 20, 2009 when we take our country back! Things are going to be set right again. HUZZAH!!!!! "

not really wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:44 AM:

" It would not be backwater if you leave WhyOming/whineoming. Take the left coast transplants (both left coasts) with you as it appears you would be happier in the neolib herd group.

Just wait untill your untested leader with no experience other than helping ruin Illinois and pressing the present button instead of voting yes or no raises corporate taves. We already hold the record for the worlds highest corporate tax. That will cause more job losses and less to distribute to those such as you.

Wait till the taxes are also raised on workers i suggest you look at norway and its problems related to this as their workers exit to other places with lower taxes.

As far as punishing corporations who have moved that will not happen. It is because of the protections of the various free trage agreements. Any atempt to do the punishing will be a G8 issue and he will not be able to do it. Protectionalism has never worked.

Welcome all the the United Socialist Association/USA "

Hampton wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:36 AM:

" WhyOming, Are you capable of intellectual, civil discussion? Throwing insults is not open minded, bi-partisan or educated in nature. We have a divide between rural values and urban demands. Neither position make those taking it stupid or worthy of hate. The two sides do not understand on another. Both can have some of what they want if we are capable of compromise and working together. It is not an all or nothing world. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:53 AM:

" After listening to all the hateful rantings of the republican party throwing out lie after lie and planting the seeds of hate into their followers for the last two years, I feel compelled to throw it back in your faces. Even after being completely rejected by the American people and having almost every false accusation from the right wing being proven to be false, the same divisive garbage continues to flow from this party of followers with no leaders. To those of you who say that if I don't like blindly following hateful republicans I should leave the state I say I have lived here for 35 years and this state is just as much my home as it is yours; instead of leaving, I will stay and help to put your stale has been political party out of power until such time as it comes off it's high horse and realizes that you cannot govern from an extremist position like the republican party has been trying to rule from. You will see that all the fears that your party has been trying to feed you to keep you in line voting with your fellow sheep will be disproven. President Obama will not be taking away your guns nor will he be turning our country into a communist country redistributing wealth. Obama ran a very civil campaign against McCain and the republicans' hateful and divisive campaign and the American people decided that they wanted someone who would bring people together instead of someone who would continue to divide the nation. We the reasonable people are tired of the negative Rove/Bush style of politics. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what exactly the republican party actually stands for that would make anyone other than the wealthiest 1% of Americans want to support them. Conservative? Record deficits, triple national debt...doesn't sound conservative to me. The entire economic philosophy the republican party has embraces of the trickle down theory of economics has now been completely 100% proven to be false; we did that for the last eight years; we were told that it would create jobs and prosperity would trickle down to all; unemployment has gone through the roof, incomes for the middle class have gone down, cost of living has gone way up, and the only ones who are doing well are the corrupt CEO's and the wealthiest of Americans who allowed our economy to tank while they were lining their pockets with the spoils. These are the same people who Bush and the republicans have rewarded with every policy they pursued and rather than trickling down through the economy, they hoarded up all the cash and left everyone else hanging out to dry. Enough is enough; it's time to take a different path and stop beating our heads on a brick wall. Well most of the country has enough sense to stop beating their heads on the wall after the last eight years, but the Wyoming republican sheep I guess will never learn...shame on you! "

old timer wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:28 PM:

" Wyoming will always try to vote for what is best for the whole country, I hope. The highly populated cities full of the welfare folks will always vote for who promises them the most goodies. "

Mike wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:24 PM:

" Hey old timer,
whats wrong with being on welfare, its kind of like being a stock broker or banker. "

Obamas health care plan wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:55 PM:

" Top Ten Signs of the new administration’s health care plan.

10. Your Viagra prescription includes a Popsicle stick and some duct tape.

9. The only 100% covered expense is embalming.

8. Your Prozac comes in colors and has little "m"s on each pill.

7. Preventive Care Coverage includes "an apple a day".

6. Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.

5. The Lone Star Bar and Grill is an approved pharmacy.

4. The only proctologist lists his address as Rotorooter.

3. The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudge sickles.

2. Directions to the Dr.'s office include "Take a left when you enter the trailer park".

1. The annual breast exam is conducted at Hooter's

The cost of this exceptional plan is 400.00 per month "

Big Horn Basin wrote on Nov 8, 2008 5:58 AM:

" Casper Resident: Do you really think that the Dems, led by Obama/Pelosi wont guzzle and become intoxicated by the power they now wield in Washington? I have been a registered Repbulican my entier life and I am extremely torqued off at MY PARTY. The Republican party needs to get its ducks in a row and get back to our core values. That said, no single party is to blame for the issues we face today. The President does not have the power to do much without the consent of Congress, so we should take a hard look at every elected official's voting records, be they Republicans or Democrats and take out the trash the next go round. "

Disgusted Wyomingite wrote on Nov 8, 2008 7:16 AM:

" To Mike: I have a friend who is a
stock broker and that person was just
as mad at the people who butchered
the banking system. Also, when I
took a Social Welfare Policy class under
Dr.Chesteen. We were told that
"welfare" is suppose to be "temporary"
and not a way of life. "

O.P.P. wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:26 AM:

" Wyomings economy is good, and the state has a surplus. Why would people here vote for socialism? The rest of the country is in a panic and voted for anyone who can say change. Raising taxes and taking away our guns is not going to fix the economy. Bringing back our industry from China and controlling the unscrupulous bankers is where I would start. "

Yep wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:26 AM:

" Mike you are absolutely right, I suppose I might as we leave my job so that I can feed at the welfare trough. Heck why not - my take home "pay" will be the same, so why work hard when I could just mooch. Who needs a productive workforce anyway. It might surprise all you socialists out there that the big welfare plans you have are going to fail when people are encouraged to leave the workforce and no longer invest. Just stupidity out of those that cannot think rationally and instead make decisions based on feeling good. "

georgewashakie wrote on Nov 8, 2008 11:28 AM:

" When you look at the the percentages of support for the winning and losing candidates, you will see D.C. and Vermont on one extreme and Oklahoma and Wyoming on the other. There may be more in common among these states than the voting demonstrates. They all have a hint of paranoiia, i.e. wolves, evolution, WalMart, neighbors, guns; they run with fear. All four are less conservative than they were eight years ago. "

Michael Rissler wrote on Nov 8, 2008 11:50 AM:

" O well, A few States went with Hoover in the 1932 election. "

To Casper Resident wrote on Nov 8, 2008 2:28 PM:

" Your post is filled with hate and you expect everyone to agree with you.??

You by your very own words must be a Republican. "

Ricardo wrote on Nov 8, 2008 4:36 PM:

" Wyoming residents don't keep up with the world nor the Nation. As long as there are jobs here, WY will vote for the status quo. Most residents don't know why food costs so much, who gasoline costs so much nor why we are at war in Iraq, or why our economy is cratering. What's a stock? What is Wall Street? What is three trillion dollars to bail out a bunch of crooks? You get the picture. "

Susan Jones wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:41 PM:

" Thank God you people in Wyoming still have some common sense. Here in Tennessee, we also overwhelmingly voted for McCain. Stupidity spoke last Tuesday and it is a sad commentary on this nation that Obama was elected to the presidency. He goes against all of the principals that I and many, many others hold so dear. May the next four years pass by quickly without him doing irreparable damage to our country. "

lol wrote on Nov 9, 2008 5:28 AM:

" Ricardo you are too full of yourself (the proper word would have been edited out). If you want to talk about crooks we can discuss ACORN. We could discuss LBJ you know the one that with the help of a rat congress and senate got social security moved from the trust fung into the general fund to pay for a war. "

Proudwyomingite wrote on Nov 9, 2008 5:36 AM:

" So Obama was overwhelmingly elected YA Right. Hate to break it to ya, but 6.5% is not overwhelmingly being elected!! Now the election of 1972 between Richard Nixon and George McGovern was overwhelming with Nixon at 60.7% and McGovern at 37.5%. It was also the young people that elected the Democrats this time around. That’s saying something; these kids are not even being taught anything about this country and our constitution in school that’s scary to me, uninformed voters!!! Most of the young folk get what they know from the media and not looking the up the facts. The bottom line the Democratic Party does not represent what our founding fathers put forth for us. How do you think we became the most powerful country in only a couple hundred years it sure wasn’t what the democrat’s platform! It continues to amaze me that liberals continue to use the first amendment to squash the 2nd amendment. Also that it is in the Constitution that women have the write to take a life of the unborn. I keep a little booklet of the Constitution with me at all times and I can’t still find that amendment. Even Obama himself has said that the Constitution is a stumbling block and a 2nd bill of rights is needed. That doesn’t give me a warm and fuzzy!! I still don’t understand why you think Wyoming is so backwoods; we just have different values than urban folks. I am in the military from Wyoming stationed in Washington State. This state is a prime example of liberalism at its best or should I say worst! The state has a $3 bill defecate, and some serious crime, traffic, and a ridiculous tax burden that gets worse all the time. The same goes all down the west and east coast. YAA gotta love this progressive nature of a good old blue state!!! Ill take the backwoods non progressive governing style and way of life in Wyoming any day. I will say this I regret my guy did not win, but Obama is going to be my president and I will support him and wish him all the luck and success, and I will pray for him every night. That being said I do look forward to the next election in 2010 and hope that we can balance out some of the power in the House and Senate in Washington DC. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:40 AM:

" No, I don't expect any of the brainwashed wing nut bass ackward republican lemming sheep in Wyoming to agree with me. I rarely ever agree with the majority of the people in Wyoming because I think for myself and do not form my opinions based on false information from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. I am tired of listening to the slanderous comments of the right wing hacks who make up the majority here in Wyoming. As soon as these hicks stop trying to say that Obama is a socialist, communist, marxist, that is going to take their guns away (all of which are ridiculous and are not going to happen), then I will engage in civil discussion with them. As long as they are operating outside of reality, it will not be possible to have an intelligent conversation with any of them. All I have heard for the last ten years out of the majority of the people in Wyoming is a bunch of hateful b.s., thus all I will give back is the same amount of respect that they give to anyone else who does not agree with their radical views of the world. "

My theory wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:03 AM:

" Casper Resident doesn't actually live in Casper. I mean how could such an "open" minded lefty be spewing such hatred - it just doesn't fit us decent Wyoming folks. How sad. "

well casper residend wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:18 AM:

" Wait a few years as we had to put up with the rants from your sine. Now you want to play nice hahahaha.

Loose the sheep comments it sounds like a date proposal from the wrong state CA is it. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:24 AM:

" My theory, I have bad news for you, I am from Wyoming and have lived here for 35 years. I am part of the decent minority percentage of the population that cares about other people even if they are not exactly like me. I didn't have my attitude toward the republicans in Wyoming when I first moved here, but rather it has taken me decades of listening to the paranoid dillusions of the majority continually ranting and raving about false allegations and hateful remarks toward anyone who dares to question the wisedom of the irresponsible policies of the corrupt Wyoming republican party. I have been pushed into becoming anti-republican by the republicans in this state who have proven time and time again how closed-minded they are toward anyone except their own type (white republican gun toting rednecks). I have bad news for you...Wyoming's population is rapidly increasing and the majority of those moving in are not brainwashed into your radical idiology, so you will soon be outnumbered and your corrupt party will be removed from power here in Wyoming as well. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:34 AM:

" I can tell from your us and them mentality that you are probably a Wyoming native...like one of the ones who has no idea what's going on in the rest of the world and has never thought for yourself in your entire life but instead have just bought right in to the dilusions of the lemmings around you and will follow your party, no matter how badly they perform, straight over a cliff. Believe it or not there are actually some people who do live here in Casper who have a brain of their own and do not blindly follow along with the corrupt Wyoming republican party. "

My theory wrote on Nov 10, 2008 12:04 PM:

" Sorry to disappoint you transplanted Casper Resident, but I'm a Libertarian. Since I still have a differing base ideology than you, which tends to be more in-line with the Republican platform, I'm expecting you to throw a bunch hate my way. So go for it - I want to see what kind of fine individuals are moving into the state. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 1:48 PM:

" I hope that Obama and the democrats do the right things and move beyond the partisan divisive governance that we have just witnessed for the last eight years and do great things for our country like I hope and expect that they will. I can't wait to hear the false accusations and dilusional arguments that the republican majority in Wyoming will come up with to try to justify their opposition to this president and congress when they are doing a good job. I will be glad to point out to you all how hypocritical you are when you find out that all the bs that you have been spreading about how Obama is going to turn us into a communist country and take our guns away is all a bunch of false paranoid dillusions that you had programmed into your minds by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. You will see...none of your dillusions will happen. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 1:50 PM:

" By the way...35 years as a Casper resident does not make me a transplant. I am a Wyoming citizen just as much as you or anyone else around here is and I resent your implication that I am less of a citizen than someone who was born here...the same reason I voted against Lummis...it's that us and them attitude. People who were born in Wyoming are not better than people who were born somewhere else...just less sheltered, not brainwashed, and more accepting of others. "

Not a Transplanted Casper Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 3:02 PM:

" Poor Pilgrims. I kind of feel bad for them, but I suppose some day they will figure it out. "

REZ wrote on Nov 10, 2008 3:57 PM:

" Pilgrims eh? So what generation after the boat ride gets to call themselves NON transplanted. Immigrants are so mean to one another once they have gotten off the boat, still its nothing compared to what the first americans or native americans endured from all these generations of pilgrim. I don't feel bad for them at all when the fresh off the boat right to vote starts imposing on the NON transplants rights hahahah talk about karma!!!
Wyoming should be ashamed of thier blind unabashed faith and alliegence to the republican party, if Ted Stevens was from Wyoming he would have been re-elected just like in Alaska.
I am proud that the Reservation polls mirrored exactly the opposite of Wyoming. OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA!!! "

Lovewyoming wrote on Nov 11, 2008 4:35 AM:

" OH REZ!!! So you think Obama soo great ah?? I can understand your way of thinking you must have never got off the rez. I was a lucky one, I grew up near Gallup NM on the, Zuni Pueblo reservation. I know what life is like on the reservation. Its poverty and sad!! I still go back and visit friends and they are still doing the same old thing, getting drunk and high and waiting for there monthly reparations check. The government has done such a disservice to the Native American people. Our people used to be a proud people that fended for them self’s and stood up and took charge of there situation. Now they stay and wait for the next government handout!! I get a lot of flack from my friends for supporting McCain and being republican. I saw the light though. I was a high school student not going anywhere, until I talked to an Air Force recruiter. He took me to Kirtland AFB in ABQ NM and showed me around. I was impressed and inspired. I wanted to join so I did. That’s where I got my taste to succeed, I was shown if you work hard you could do anything and go anywhere. So I worked my butt off and in 12 yrs of being in the service I have made it to E-7 MSGT, and have a Bachelors degree professional aeronautics, and associates in electrical mechanical technology. As for the military it is a government institution, but you can’t be lazy, you have to work hard to gain in rank and if you don’t you may be kicked out under higher tenor regulations. That is why I didn’t support Obama. Obama’s America sounds allot like the reservation to me. All you people out there that think it’s so great to be in a welfare state go to the reservation and look around. When the government gets involved in the hand out business this is what you get!! I would never have my children on the reservation. People on the reservation generally have no hope or Aspirations; I know I didn’t for a long time. I even contemplated dropping out of school like a lot of my friends did. I thankfully didn’t. As for Wyoming, I love it there and the people as well I was stationed at FE Warren AFB for a while. I found that Wyoming’s the place I’m retiring. I love the Wyoming spirit of hard work and tell it like it is attitude. Yep when I retire you can add another republican to Wyoming!! "

Not a Transplanted Casper Resident wrote on Nov 11, 2008 11:00 AM:

" Lovewyoming - We will welcome you with open arms, since it obvious that you respect our values and heritage. What a refreshing change from the insults and whining coming from those that move here and want Wyoming to change to fit their mentality. They really should just go back to where they cam from if they don't like Wyoming for what it is. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 11, 2008 2:29 PM:

" Yes lovewyoming, the closed-minded, hateful, redneck hicks of Wyoming will welcome you with open arms as long as you are a hateful, redneck hick just like them. Don't think for yourself or care about anyone who is not "one of us" for two seconds though or they will turn on you so fast it will make your head spin. "

Lovewyoming wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:25 PM:

" Casper Resident; the only hateful words I hear are coming from you. I do find that liberals are much more full of anger than conservitives. I see and grew up with it. You really see how angry people really are when you move from squaler to a place like Wyoming where people are very friendly as a whole. Then you really see how angry people are when you move away from Wyoming back to a liberal place like California, and visit back home on the reservation. It is night and day difference. I am speaking from experiance from going all over the world and the US, serving in the military and growing up the way I did. My experiance is that conservitives are a much more happy group than liberals. Now I am not talking about Repulican or Democrat Im talking about Liberal and Conservitive. I think Casper Resident is a very angry person I really don't know why you stay in Wyoming, I wouldn't if I where you. I can't stand the liberal state where Uncle Sam wants me in this time around. I would pack up tonight and leave here if I could. You on other hand have a choice; why stay in Wyoming?You seem very angry to me. "

I think wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:40 PM:

" The wind must be getting to the transplanted Casper Resident. Us natives know how to handle it, but maybe a visit to Crestview (or whatever they call it now) might help coping with the viscous hostile environment that you are dealing with. "

REZ wrote on Nov 12, 2008 7:57 AM:

" As most retorts in NdN country go...for loveswyoming, your lack of sting in the judgemental and I'm better than you response to my post is at best typical NdN. My granddaddy a Korean Vet told his son, "The Government owns the tribes I enlisted and gave what it had left." His son took that and has worked over 40 years straight for Boeing without a college degree and survived countless layoffs. I have earned a couple of College degrees, but am proud of only my Haskell Indian Nations University. Where my parents met and my granddad was boarded and assimilated.
Its sounds good to preach "pull your self up by your boot straps", probably feels even better when telling that to a NdN. Too bad that many Tribal members don't have the blueprint I used for a sense of direction. The dynamic of reservation system is morbid, but then it wasn't created for the well being of American tribes. Ranching and my work in Education shows not only my demographic, but esspecially the young and retired, that living here doesn't have to be hard, bleek or glum. I did my granddad right by cowboying and my dad by getting educated and educating. I do for my people by living, working and contributing.
My political alliegence will always be to my tribe. Common sense tells me that the pilgrim will again have to ask the Tribes for help saving this democracy instead of creating it. Change is here, well maybe not Wyoming, but as America goes so goes.... "

Simpson wrote on Nov 12, 2008 11:27 AM:

" You should not change your core values based on a new, unproven face. You are who you are, or you are no one and you stand for nothing. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 12, 2008 11:53 AM:

" I stay here to help the 100K or so people who are not hateful, blindly following, republican lemmings to continue to increase our numbers until we are the majority so we can vote all the corrupt republicans out of office and reclaim the state for decent citizens who care about others and are not brainwashed into supporting a corrupt party that does nothing for the people of Wyoming. I will not go away; I enjoy the challenge. There are plenty of good people in this state; almost everyone that I know personally. I believe that the good people of Wyoming will prevail over the hateful people in the long run. "

Wyosavvy wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:25 PM:

" I've just read that, alas, so many Wyomingites spend their time listening to -- and believing -- "Opium Rush" Limbaugh and Faux News that they are now rushing out in a panic to buy guns! They've been whipped up into a frenzy by lobbyists and extremists who have been telling them, without any proof, that Obama is going to ban firearms. Never mind that the Supreme Court just overturned Washington DC's gun law, or that Obama has actually stated that he favors 2nd Amendment rights. He's a "Demoncrat," so those who benefit from polarized politics have to try to push him to one extreme side of the political spectrum even if he's really a centrist. "

Troll Alert wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:37 PM:

" Casper Resident is actually a GOP operative making ludicrous statements in an effort to smear the Democratic party. Nice try, but no worry I already understand how messed up the Dems are, so my vote typically goes to the GOP. Maybe you should be applying these tactics to Colorado, since that state apparently needs help in this area. "

Wyoming Resident wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:50 PM:

" Casper Resident, Simply because someone does not agree with your point of view does not make them lemmings, ignorant or their ideas and values less valid than your ideas and values.

Demonizing your opposition does not make them look small but it does make you look small.

Try to beat people with the content of your argument and not by attack and denigration.

If you cannot win with logic based on facts, you cannot win at all and your position is unsupportable.

Teach this to your children too. We have enough non-thinkers already in this state and nation. "

6th grade Teacher wrote on Nov 12, 2008 3:56 PM:

" I like the idea of Santa Clause. but I would not vote for him either based on his track record or lack there of.

This argument is about more than hope for change (neither of which is a plan, or a method).

This argument is whether substance matters in America any more, or if earnest talk and symbolism are more important to us as a nation.

Are we thinkers or are we non-thinkers. That is what is at the heart of the argument.

Now only time will tell, based on President Elect Obama's future performance once he is in office and actually serving the electorate. "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 AM:

" Wyoming Resident, your argument is right on point regarding the politics of the republican party; good advice to give to your own flock. Republicans, Wyoming Resident has some good advice for you; in case you missed it above, here is the advice...probably good advice for both parties; especially the republican party that has been running on fear and smear tactics for a decade or better now and negative tactics seemed to be the only ones employed by republicans in 2008.

Simply because someone does not agree with your point of view does not make them demonds, communists, marxists, ignorant or their ideas and values less valid than your ideas and values, nor does it mean that they are working with terrorists.

Demonizing your opposition does not make them look small but it does make you look small.

Try to beat people with the content of your argument and not by attack and denigration.

If you cannot win with logic based on facts, you cannot win at all and your position is unsupportable.

Teach this to your children too. We have enough non-thinkers already in this state and nation.

Think for yourselves Wyoming; the republican party has been playing you for decades, doing nothing for you, and convincing you that they are on your side, when in reality they are on the side of big business, big energy, and powerful lobbiests. "

More of the same wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:34 AM:

" Once again Casper Resident throws out derogatory claims about the Republican party and their supporters without providing any facts to back up the claims. "doing nothing for you" is a statement that could easily be refuted.

This is not a an effective way to argue your position and your unsubstantiated attacks probably harden your opponents stances. Coming from a an independent position, I know that Casper Resident's illogical rhetoric turns me off and makes me not want to be affiliated with this person in anyway. I wonder if Casper Resident has the cognitive ability to objectively view how this approach is in actuality most likely hurting instead helping their cause. "

georgewashakie wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:38 AM:

" Despite all the opinions that have been expressed on this page, there are some facts that can be garnered from the election results. The young people in this state are headed for one end of the political spectrum--or a home out of state. The people on the other end of the spectrum are
headed for the retirement home, the nursing home, and the funeral home. "

Gregory wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:20 PM:

" So if a state, group or individual doesn't jump on the band wagon of the next trendy idea or movement they are some how dumb or out of touch?

In a subjective world this might be the case. However we live in an objective world where truths do not go out of fashion or where situational ethics are acceptable (they are not).

Save the name calling until after Mr. Obama has actually accomplished something positive for America. For now his potential leadership and achievements are all just speculation based on hope for some undescribed changes. "

motoboy wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:20 PM:

" We have one party in this country: the Collectivist Party of America. There's very little difference between the left and right wings of it. The party bosses are the international bankers. Gee, I wish I could get a bailout! "

Canton Bell wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:18 PM:

" Do you want a shot at making it to the top?

Do you want to be able to freely employ your natural talents, acquired skills and hardwork to secure you own future and potentially build personal wealthy?

Do you want the government to get out of your way and get out of your wallet?

Do you want America to remain a secure, free nation able to act of it's own volition when appropriate?

If so, the Republican Party is the party for you.

The Democrat Party would allow you none of that based on their agenda of social control under an intrusive, massive government that make all outcomes equal regardless of how long and how hard you work to earn your own way ahead.

These times will change, and self determination and self reliance, cornerstones of what made and has kept America free and strong, will come back into popularity. Then, most of the public will have realized the error of their hasty thinking in 2008 as they tried to "punish" Geogre W. Bush for all the things that the far liberal left as aided and abetted by the media has accussed him of. "

Not Changing wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:16 AM:

" WYOMING is a great state! I am proud to live here! "

OHSkepticalMe wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:26 AM:

" Hey me too I love Big wonderful the way it is. Why fix it if it isn't broken "

You Betcha wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:54 AM:

" Wyoming is a wonderful place to live, work and raise a family.

If you want change and you want Wyoming to become Southern California, then moving is the best suggestion that I can offer to you. "

Good Ol Red Wyo wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:12 AM:

" We voted Republican for the following reasons:

We like our guns, we want to keep them.

We love our Babies, we want them to live.

We like our hard earned money, we want to keep it.

We like our livestock and wild game, we don't like the wolves killing them.

We love our country, we want it defended.

We Abhor terrorists, we don't associate with or tolerate them.

We respect the constitution, we want courts to uphold it, not rewrite it.

We value family and marriage, we don't want them trrown out the window and replaced with perversions.

We understand free enterprise and believe it's better than "government controlled economy".

We don't believe our trucks have destroyed the environment and caused man-made global warming.

We value our citizenship and don't want illegal criminals given a free pass.

We believe that the USA is the greatest country in the world and we are proud of it: therefore, we attempted on 11/4 to keep America great! "

Casper Resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:15 AM:

" Oh, I forgot the Wyoming republican party has given you the "right to work" (for chump change). That's right...they also are keeping your guns from being taken away (even though noone of any political party is calling for anyone's guns to be taken away and there are so many guns in this country that they couldn't take your guns away even if they wanted to). The national republican party on the other hand has done such good things as spend 3 trillion dollars on an unnecessary war in Iraq for oil, run up record deficits, put our children and grandchildren another 7 trillion in debt, lost millions of jobs all over the country so that everyone from the rest of the country can move to Wyoming for jobs, run up our housing costs and cost of living, and crime rate, promote torture at the hands of American troops, and give away hundreds of billions of dollars that we have to borrow from China to big business, Wall Street, and energy companies. That's just a partial list of all the good things that the republican party has done for us lately; it's hard to understand why the country is throwing these honest, hard working, patriots out of office. Actually, it's hard to figure out why anyone would actually support the republican party; maybe someone can explain that to me in factual terms (not through false accusations or what Rush Limbaugh thinks, but actually explain to me what the republican party has done that you view as positive in the last eight years) I can't think of anything that makes me want to support them at all. "

get real wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:03 PM:

" Canton,
You live in a dream world don't you? I guess Rush Limbaugh must be your primary source for news and information because you are completely misinformed about what's going on in the real world. Bush has been a complete disaster. I am sure we could randomly pick a president on the street anywhere in America and end up with a more competent president. If you think Bush has done a good job then you are too stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote. Talk to me in a few years about all that dillusional stuff that you think Obama is going to do; you will find out that he is not going to do any of that; it's all a smoke and mirror show by the republican party designed to try to scare you away from making the right decision and voting for Obama. You will see. Meanwhile keep your paranoid dillusions to yourself, as they are not true. If any of that actually happens then I will be the first one to step up and admit it, but I don't believe it for a minute. Obama seems to me like he is trying to bring people together while you and your croud are trying to continue to divide the nation like you have done for the last eight years. "

Blowing in the Wind wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:41 PM:

" Casper Resident, Go back to your dope smoke filled commune and read some more from Karl Max's book on his brothers Harpo and Groucho.

By the way, right to work is far better than self-serving unions, ask GM, Ford and Chrysler! "

Bad Ideas wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Since the socialists in Washington DC are now picking and choosing which companies in the financial and auto industries will be winners and loosers, perhaps they will also bail out our Wyoming guides, ranchers and coal industry using yet to be collected taxes too?

After all, our kids, grand kids and great grand kids don't need a future, not ahead of our comfortable life today. "

Duh wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:36 PM:

" Casper Resident, I see that you are a lover of waste.

Unions are like Jesse Jackson; they serve no useful purpose, they waste endless dollars and they create and perpetuate endless controvery.

Why do you think that the Winchester Plant in New England folded and restarted production in SC?

Why do you think that Ford, GM and Dodge are on the brink of folding and the foreign auto makers in the south are all booming?

The answer is unions. They are a hold over from bad old days now long gone. yet they keep robbing workers of money and bankrupting businesses that are the back bone of the US economy. "

What a Joke wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:37 PM:

" The fools that want to blame the countries problems solely on the Republican party are not doing anything constructive that will help solve the problems. Objectiveness and the ability to view things for what they really are is needed, not a rigid false partisan view that lacks credibility.

Re: the slam on "right to work". Are you aware of the troubles in the auto industry? Unions raised the costs for the big three, so that they could not compete with foreign producers. And now they want us to bail out the auto makers, so that over paid union employees can continue to feed on the gravy train while drinking their coffee - at my expense - disgusting it is. Let them fail I say.

Re: current financial meltdown. While both parties share the blame, the Dems are more at fault. It was their party that decided owning a house was an entitlement and hence forcing lenders to issue sub-prime loans to ensure the unqualified borrowers got their new entitlement. And then the Dems in congress would not acknowledge or address the subprime problems once the Republicans finally tried to do something about it. Gee thanks Barney Frank and Harry Reid.

I find it ridiculous that people cannot use their brain and recognize these issues for what they are. Why do the Dems blame everything on the Republicans without holding their own party accountable too? Stupid Fools that want the government to take care of them at my expense. Sorry I'm not going to support such a proposition so I have no other choice than to support the Republicans. But since you obviously are one of the weak that need the government to take care of you, I don't expect you to understand. "

Not Changing wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:53 PM:

" well said good ol red!! "

Reham wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:43 PM:

" You still don't understand that the electoral college was responsible for putting Obama into the white house not the people. 15 states votes weren't even counted before president elect Osama Hussien was announced the new leader of this broken country. The republic is gone, and leaning more and more towards a corprate ran big business bought communist country. 15 states weren't counted, so tell me again why we continue to rush to the polls if the gov is going to put into office who they want anyway. How can someone be elected without a proper U.S. birth certificate, who turns his back on the flag during the national anthym, who's closest spiritual adiviser is a racist and who's wife isn't proud of being an American. Welcome to the North American Union were we will be ran by an African born socialist Marxist. Thanks fellow Amerixicans for your support in tearing apart one of what used to be the greatest nation on earth. Home of the stupid because of the brave! "

I see clearly wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:47 PM:

" Casper Resident, I see why you have the believes you do. You clearly don't have a job or you wouldn't have all day and night to spew your trash. Get a job and quit relying on someone else to support you. "

good grief wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:24 AM:

" I do not understand a few things so perhaps someone can offer an honest answer to the folowing.

1. There has been a total lack of bipartisanism in the national legislative branch since Newt and company took a slim majority. Now the other side has a large majority they say it is time for bipartisanism. Exactly why should they get what they were unwilling to give?

2. The conservative accepts mavericks and had one running as president. The other side is trying to strip and or otherwise punish a maverick from their party who was on a previous ticket as vice president. Now why is that?

3. Our country has the highest corporate tax in the world so why is it a wonder that they leave to other countries taking our jobs away from us?

4. Both parties are at fault for not stopping illegal entry and allowing the illegal’s to obtain employment at lowered wages taking more jobs away from citizens. This is not service industry or farm work it includes construction etc. why is that?

5. The left wants the fairness doctrine brought back to the media yet no one is suggesting that same doctrine be applied to the education system. Why is that?

6. Why is it that a non endangered Canadian gray can be relocated at great expense to our country and added to the endangered species list?

Well that is enough for now as I do not want to ask the really hard questions and confound the left.

On a side note it is the left that murders its unborn thus they will eventually be an endangered sect thus allowing reason to re emerge in the political arena. "

we the sheep wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:45 AM:

" Reham..are you retarted? Blind? Cant read? What is your deal? Abig business bought country under Obama? You must be lost. Last i seen, the republicans have been in charge for a while and big business has been pulling the strings. Does Tom Delay ring a bell? Ted stevens? No government in history has been more corrupt than ours has been in the last decade. Ive come to realize, that people in this country vote republican because the have no opinion of there own and blindly follow what there party tells them. I know. i was one of you for a long time. Republicans, are sheep, do what the party says and asks no questions. The american people are beginning to find this out and are finally wising up. Apparently, WY is going to be the last to do so. So when we are a state left in irrelevance and needing help, we have no right to cry about being left behind. We did it to ourselves. "

georgewashakie wrote on Nov 15, 2008 9:00 AM:

" From these comments, it appears that the Republican Party is having some difficulty adjusting to a position of minority party. They have little difficulty in being the negative party.
--paraphrased from Sarah Palin "

Shooter wrote on Nov 15, 2008 12:57 PM:

" As a former big-city resident, I have to say that we NEVER allow the social programs that Wyoming has, like the Hathaway scholarship. Seriously? If your kid gets a 17 on the ACT and a 2.5 GPA in one of OUR high schools they get to go to college for free? Is is really hard to pass your classes when the student to teacher ratio is so low here and in the cities its closer to 35:1? This is probably the biggest socialist state in the union! Look at the free health care so many receive! Look at how many people are on WIC! Wyoming is not a leader in ideas or economy for that matter. We are in a boom year and people are getting cocky. These walls that Wyoming has built will crash down on it unless new ideas are cultivated within them. If we are an energy state, we need to carry the torch in offering new innovative ideas to solve the coming energy crisis. Otherwise, be ready- depressions hit our style of economy the hardest. "

WOW wrote on Nov 15, 2008 2:34 PM:

" I don't have the concentration to read all the long, rambling comments. It seems that some of these people are just the same yellers and haters you get on every valuable topic--busy calling names instead of talking about the issues in a helpful dialogue. Here are my simple rules of politics:
1. I always vote.
2. If my guy (or gal) gets in and stinks, I say, "Well! I wouldn't have voted for him, if I'd have known he was going to do that."
3. I the other guy gets in and stinks, I say, "Well! I knew that was going to happen; that's why I voted for the other guy."
4. Next election, I vote.

At my coffee shop, I hear a lot of disgruntled remarks about Barack Obama. Sadly, too many of them are focused on the fact that we have elected that ***racial slur deleted*** or that ***(erroneous) religious slur deleted***
If you are mad that the Democrat got elected, I can understand your frustration. I only hope that you will try to be optimistic and a part of the solution to our problems. If you are mad because that particular Democrat got elected, due to your own ignorance or racism, I can only feel sorry for you. "

Speed Bump wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:06 PM:

" There have been many comments from WY residents about the election of a so-called socialist. How many of you are aware of school financing in WY? Little Pinedale, little Shoshoni, and several others have to return a large part of their coffers to the state, because they have too much money, due to the rich mineral resources in their districts. As I recall, most of the people in the state not living in those districts hailed it as a wonderful idea. Isn't that the epitome of socialism? It all depends on whose ox is being gored. "

Speed Bump wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:25 PM:

" Proud Wyomingite wrote,"these kids are not even being taught anything about this country and our constitution in school that’s scary to me, uninformed voters!!! Most of the young folk get what they know from the media and not looking the up the facts." and "The state has a $3 bill defecate". Proud Wyomingite, although you have enumerated what "these kids" are NOT being taught, they are obviously being taught more about sentence structure and spelling than you. By the way. what, pray tell, is a $3 bill defecate? (def·e·cate (df-kt).To void feces from the bowels. )
I believe you mean a 3 billion dollar deficit (compliments of George W. Bush and the Republican party).. A Freudian slip, perhaps? "

Proud Wyomingite wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:40 PM:

" Speed Bump; Out of all I wrote that's what you got out of it. Darn I spelled something wrong waaa!!! Sue me. Typical liberal. You can't find a good rebuttal so find a spelling error. Yep spelling NAZI!!!! Maybe it’s what I was really thinking, $3 Bill in the crap hole. If you look "these kids" has a semi colon in front, that wasn't a sentence oh I forgot a coma after school maybe. Call George W Bush what you will. He will always be more successful than you will ever be!!! HAHA You can spell, but will you ever be a Governor, CEO, or the President???? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or maybe your Christ the perfect one and never make any mistakes?? Or your just Just an annoying speed bump. Oh ya tell Obama there aren’t 57 states. Why do I have "Do Tell" when you figured it out, you’re a genius!! "

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